1 00:00:08,330 --> 00:00:05,140 [Music] 2 00:00:10,940 --> 00:00:08,340 this is another episode of UFO garage 3 00:00:13,940 --> 00:00:10,950 I'm Ben and I'm Joe this is where we 4 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:13,950 talk about UFOs aliens of all things we 5 00:00:20,990 --> 00:00:17,730 owe thanks weird baby all right dude so 6 00:00:25,070 --> 00:00:21,000 uh yeah we've got a returning guest with 7 00:00:27,859 --> 00:00:25,080 us tonight miss Laurieann Fenton yeah 8 00:00:31,510 --> 00:00:27,869 hey what's up to everybody Laurie hi 9 00:00:35,569 --> 00:00:31,520 guys you know you're starting to change 10 00:00:38,209 --> 00:00:35,579 ethnicities every time I don't know 11 00:00:41,930 --> 00:00:38,219 you're dread today or if what you're up 12 00:00:51,319 --> 00:00:41,940 to but you're sounding very cool I'm 13 00:00:53,450 --> 00:00:51,329 going for an Asian thing you guys crack 14 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:53,460 me up I love your show I love being on 15 00:00:58,130 --> 00:00:56,250 thank you for fighting me thank you very 16 00:01:00,590 --> 00:00:58,140 much for being here thank you very much 17 00:01:02,420 --> 00:01:00,600 for being here yeah yeah we missed you 18 00:01:03,830 --> 00:01:02,430 we we're thinking like man it's been a 19 00:01:05,450 --> 00:01:03,840 while since we talked to Lori in so I'm 20 00:01:08,539 --> 00:01:05,460 glad I'm glad you got our email in time 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:08,549 I know it's kind of last-minute so no no 22 00:01:12,530 --> 00:01:10,650 happy to do it because you know we're 23 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:12,540 all gonna be together in a month it's 24 00:01:19,310 --> 00:01:16,490 actually one month from today yeah 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:19,320 Francisco that UFO Khan and I'm so 26 00:01:23,420 --> 00:01:21,450 excited for you guys cuz you know we 27 00:01:24,950 --> 00:01:23,430 really do have an amazing event going on 28 00:01:28,070 --> 00:01:24,960 I probably should talk about it a little 29 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:28,080 bit huh yeah absolutely so we're gonna 30 00:01:33,710 --> 00:01:31,170 do UFO garages our special guest radio 31 00:01:36,499 --> 00:01:33,720 broadcasters this year every year I 32 00:01:39,410 --> 00:01:36,509 somebody to be there and broadcast and 33 00:01:41,450 --> 00:01:39,420 is this gonna be wild and you guys will 34 00:01:43,460 --> 00:01:41,460 get to interview all of the speakers and 35 00:01:45,679 --> 00:01:43,470 and the people milling around in the 36 00:01:47,990 --> 00:01:45,689 lobby and you know just hanging out and 37 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:48,000 attending and I kind of tell you guys 38 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:50,130 the most interesting things that happen 39 00:01:54,710 --> 00:01:52,530 at our conference every year is that the 40 00:01:56,810 --> 00:01:54,720 radio broadcasters always them up to me 41 00:01:58,760 --> 00:01:56,820 at the end and they say you know the 42 00:02:00,830 --> 00:01:58,770 speakers were great I loved interviewing 43 00:02:04,639 --> 00:02:00,840 them but the people that attend are even 44 00:02:06,679 --> 00:02:04,649 more wild yeah yeah I see that yeah you 45 00:02:09,139 --> 00:02:06,689 guys are gonna find that the people that 46 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:09,149 attend are actually gonna be your star 47 00:02:13,580 --> 00:02:11,730 people on your radio show so it's gonna 48 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:13,590 be very interesting for you guys 49 00:02:19,220 --> 00:02:15,330 it's always interesting for the people 50 00:02:20,870 --> 00:02:19,230 attending that you know saunter over you 51 00:02:22,820 --> 00:02:20,880 and go well do you want to hear a story 52 00:02:26,830 --> 00:02:22,830 and then the next thing you know you're 53 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:26,840 like oh my god is Roswell all over again 54 00:02:31,460 --> 00:02:29,250 this does not happened that you know 55 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:31,470 this person isn't like on the stage 56 00:02:34,309 --> 00:02:33,450 that's what always happens they always 57 00:02:36,650 --> 00:02:34,319 come up to me go 58 00:02:38,390 --> 00:02:36,660 I interviewed four people at your 59 00:02:40,370 --> 00:02:38,400 conference that should be honest stage 60 00:02:42,830 --> 00:02:40,380 telling their story but they won't do it 61 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:42,840 and you know it was a big deal to get 62 00:02:45,770 --> 00:02:44,130 them to come out and talk about it on 63 00:02:48,350 --> 00:02:45,780 the radio show but you know that's kind 64 00:02:51,199 --> 00:02:48,360 of the way this this whole ball rolls in 65 00:02:53,900 --> 00:02:51,209 the UFO community a lot of people have 66 00:02:56,090 --> 00:02:53,910 extraordinary experiences and they just 67 00:02:58,640 --> 00:02:56,100 don't want to talk about it and you'll 68 00:03:00,589 --> 00:02:58,650 find the most interesting thing to me at 69 00:03:02,809 --> 00:03:00,599 my conference this year is I picked a 70 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:02,819 lot of experiencers to be on the stage 71 00:03:08,270 --> 00:03:05,250 and for most of them it's their first 72 00:03:10,009 --> 00:03:08,280 time ever being on a stage and thank God 73 00:03:12,949 --> 00:03:10,019 somebody out there I think it's the 74 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:12,959 aliens have used me to get to these 75 00:03:17,300 --> 00:03:14,370 people and say it's your responsibility 76 00:03:20,690 --> 00:03:17,310 to get on that stage and tell the world 77 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:20,700 what's happened to you and the biggest 78 00:03:25,009 --> 00:03:22,290 problem you've got though is they're not 79 00:03:27,319 --> 00:03:25,019 scientists or not phd's usually they're 80 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:27,329 not they're not cops they're not lawyers 81 00:03:33,050 --> 00:03:29,130 they're not like what people call 82 00:03:35,330 --> 00:03:33,060 credible witnesses right right and and 83 00:03:38,270 --> 00:03:35,340 that is a huge problem for us because 84 00:03:41,569 --> 00:03:38,280 that stigma has been put on the whole 85 00:03:44,210 --> 00:03:41,579 UFO community by the powers that be in 86 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:44,220 the government they cuz right now okay 87 00:03:47,449 --> 00:03:45,510 I'm gonna I'm gonna go to something else 88 00:03:49,129 --> 00:03:47,459 just on a tangent but it's very 89 00:03:52,699 --> 00:03:49,139 important to what I'm talking about 90 00:03:55,370 --> 00:03:52,709 um right now we've got the United States 91 00:03:57,500 --> 00:03:55,380 Air Force finally admitting that their 92 00:03:59,599 --> 00:03:57,510 airline pilots are mean not the airline 93 00:04:02,360 --> 00:03:59,609 pilots their fighter pilots have been 94 00:04:03,860 --> 00:04:02,370 seeing UFOs out in the skies for years 95 00:04:06,379 --> 00:04:03,870 and years and years okay and they 96 00:04:08,569 --> 00:04:06,389 following this right so finally 97 00:04:11,660 --> 00:04:08,579 admitting it but they're saying these 98 00:04:13,309 --> 00:04:11,670 guys are credible what they call some 99 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:13,319 type of witness where you know they're 100 00:04:20,569 --> 00:04:16,410 like educated witnesses you know and so 101 00:04:23,750 --> 00:04:20,579 again they relegate the common UFO 102 00:04:26,230 --> 00:04:23,760 contact me to be not as important 103 00:04:28,930 --> 00:04:26,240 because they're not a fighter pilot okay 104 00:04:31,809 --> 00:04:28,940 this is probable and I'm like sitting 105 00:04:35,469 --> 00:04:31,819 here going there defining the narrative 106 00:04:38,260 --> 00:04:35,479 about who is important to report a UFO 107 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:38,270 or who's important to import an alien 108 00:04:44,529 --> 00:04:41,810 encounter all right that's not cool with 109 00:04:46,330 --> 00:04:44,539 me that's why that's why I'm putting on 110 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:46,340 my conference the way I do because I'm 111 00:04:50,140 --> 00:04:48,050 putting out people that no one's heard 112 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:50,150 of no one's you know heard their story 113 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:51,770 no one knows anything about these people 114 00:04:55,510 --> 00:04:54,050 and they're gonna get up on a stage and 115 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:55,520 tell you what the heck has happened to 116 00:05:01,450 --> 00:04:57,650 them now you don't have to believe them 117 00:05:03,420 --> 00:05:01,460 you know cuz a lot of them are not let's 118 00:05:06,249 --> 00:05:03,430 put it this way they're not articulate 119 00:05:08,110 --> 00:05:06,259 amazing speakers okay but they aren't 120 00:05:11,950 --> 00:05:08,120 supposed to be that isn't their job in 121 00:05:13,990 --> 00:05:11,960 life their life is a waitress or a truck 122 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:14,000 driver or you know whatever it is they 123 00:05:18,010 --> 00:05:15,410 didn't choose it right they didn't 124 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:18,020 choose for that to happen to them nobody 125 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:20,330 chooses this this is not so you ask 126 00:05:26,339 --> 00:05:23,090 every contactee whether if they had a 127 00:05:28,420 --> 00:05:26,349 choice not to have this happen to them 128 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:28,430 90% of them will say I wish it'd never 129 00:05:34,089 --> 00:05:31,849 happen to me because at that point once 130 00:05:38,379 --> 00:05:34,099 you're a contact me your life is never 131 00:05:40,300 --> 00:05:38,389 the same again you your family trust me 132 00:05:42,610 --> 00:05:40,310 your family life is never the same again 133 00:05:46,510 --> 00:05:42,620 you're gonna lose relationships you're 134 00:05:50,050 --> 00:05:46,520 gonna gain relationships people are just 135 00:05:51,459 --> 00:05:50,060 not the same and and I'm not saying it's 136 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:51,469 the best thing that ever happened to 137 00:05:55,029 --> 00:05:53,090 people because a lot of people become 138 00:05:57,580 --> 00:05:55,039 very good because some people just 139 00:05:59,620 --> 00:05:57,590 become neurotic because of it because 140 00:06:01,629 --> 00:05:59,630 you know how do you do how do you 141 00:06:03,159 --> 00:06:01,639 integrate into your life the fact that 142 00:06:06,129 --> 00:06:03,169 you're talking to something that 143 00:06:07,899 --> 00:06:06,139 everybody tells you doesn't exist but 144 00:06:11,890 --> 00:06:07,909 you're touching it and you know it's 145 00:06:14,469 --> 00:06:11,900 real yeah yeah that's true you know and 146 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:14,479 there's no psychiatry out there to help 147 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:15,289 you with it 148 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:17,930 right you know except for now thank god 149 00:06:22,659 --> 00:06:20,690 we've got a lot of hypnotherapists that 150 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:22,669 are going into this field with their 151 00:06:26,830 --> 00:06:24,770 eyes open saying well you know maybe 152 00:06:29,020 --> 00:06:26,840 this person is not crazy maybe there's 153 00:06:31,740 --> 00:06:29,030 actually something to it and we got to 154 00:06:35,019 --> 00:06:31,750 thank people like whitley strieber and 155 00:06:37,180 --> 00:06:35,029 Budd Hopkins and John Mack and you know 156 00:06:40,220 --> 00:06:37,190 our the this story the historical 157 00:06:43,340 --> 00:06:40,230 historians of the contactee move 158 00:06:46,370 --> 00:06:43,350 even going back to Adamski and those 159 00:06:48,110 --> 00:06:46,380 guys giant rock and it was taken more 160 00:06:50,660 --> 00:06:48,120 seriously back then and if you were a 161 00:06:52,340 --> 00:06:50,670 contact you weren't considered a kook 162 00:06:55,550 --> 00:06:52,350 you were considered somebody that was 163 00:06:58,280 --> 00:06:55,560 kind of blessed yo you know let's let's 164 00:06:59,270 --> 00:06:58,290 hope we get back to that again it would 165 00:07:00,710 --> 00:06:59,280 be nice I guess 166 00:07:04,700 --> 00:07:00,720 you know you know what's funny about 167 00:07:07,730 --> 00:07:04,710 that is so a couple episodes ago we had 168 00:07:10,130 --> 00:07:07,740 a Gary Voorhees and a PJ Hughes on the 169 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:10,140 show and you know I was asking almost 170 00:07:15,620 --> 00:07:13,290 like dude so you know you being like one 171 00:07:17,390 --> 00:07:15,630 of those like credible witnesses right 172 00:07:20,210 --> 00:07:17,400 because you know you're you are on the 173 00:07:21,620 --> 00:07:20,220 Princeton and you ran all this stuff do 174 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:21,630 you think like you know these guys 175 00:07:25,610 --> 00:07:23,610 releasing all these you know well not 176 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:25,620 all the information but then finally 177 00:07:29,420 --> 00:07:28,050 like accepting the fact that like okay 178 00:07:33,020 --> 00:07:29,430 we're gonna tell the public all of this 179 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:33,030 this uh some of this information and now 180 00:07:36,380 --> 00:07:35,130 it's kind of like okay so that was 181 00:07:38,090 --> 00:07:36,390 supposed to kind of take the edge off 182 00:07:40,730 --> 00:07:38,100 and I was like you know just did you 183 00:07:43,390 --> 00:07:40,740 think that leaves open any room for for 184 00:07:46,910 --> 00:07:43,400 maybe regular people to maybe not seen 185 00:07:48,470 --> 00:07:46,920 you know as as such Kooks and and you 186 00:07:50,510 --> 00:07:48,480 know it was funny he was joking around 187 00:07:52,670 --> 00:07:50,520 he was like nah you guys are still gonna 188 00:07:55,070 --> 00:07:52,680 sound nuts and like you know it's funny 189 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:55,080 right but at the same time it's like 190 00:08:00,530 --> 00:07:58,170 that's that is very true like if you're 191 00:08:03,290 --> 00:08:00,540 not a police officer or a military 192 00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:03,300 person or you know anybody that you 193 00:08:07,690 --> 00:08:05,310 would consider credible right you're 194 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:07,700 still always gonna sound like a loony 195 00:08:14,810 --> 00:08:11,610 yeah that's that's a problem yeah and I 196 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:14,820 and and there's a lot of groups out 197 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:17,490 there that aren't helping it any I will 198 00:08:22,970 --> 00:08:20,130 say this MUFON the mutual UFO network 199 00:08:24,860 --> 00:08:22,980 who's been around since 1969 they just 200 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:24,870 celebrated their 50th anniversary this 201 00:08:32,150 --> 00:08:29,490 year or last year 2019 they actually 202 00:08:33,860 --> 00:08:32,160 take this stuff seriously they don't you 203 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:33,870 know they don't blatantly come out and 204 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:35,850 say you know we're all about that cuz 205 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:37,650 they're not there they're about the hard 206 00:08:41,930 --> 00:08:40,170 science too I mean that that was our 207 00:08:43,940 --> 00:08:41,940 main focus when they started but within 208 00:08:46,070 --> 00:08:43,950 the last ten years they have started 209 00:08:48,770 --> 00:08:46,080 taking the contact the parts very 210 00:08:52,010 --> 00:08:48,780 seriously they are now reporting the 211 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:52,020 contact the events in their database 212 00:08:55,420 --> 00:08:52,730 when you 213 00:08:57,790 --> 00:08:55,430 an encounter they actually put in there 214 00:08:59,680 --> 00:08:57,800 about the alien encounter er and you 215 00:09:01,810 --> 00:08:59,690 know whatever happened whereas many 216 00:09:03,460 --> 00:09:01,820 years ago they did not put that part in 217 00:09:06,340 --> 00:09:03,470 they only put the parts in about the 218 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:06,350 ships or the lights or the distance or 219 00:09:10,810 --> 00:09:08,810 the you know the ground trace rate you 220 00:09:13,570 --> 00:09:10,820 know evidence or whatever they were 221 00:09:15,430 --> 00:09:13,580 working on and they never included the 222 00:09:19,210 --> 00:09:15,440 alien contact part okay 223 00:09:21,670 --> 00:09:19,220 yeah so now in ten years we now have the 224 00:09:23,830 --> 00:09:21,680 whole group that works with MUFON that 225 00:09:27,130 --> 00:09:23,840 are hypnotherapist to help the people 226 00:09:28,410 --> 00:09:27,140 who are having alien contact as well but 227 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:28,420 like I said they're not out there 228 00:09:33,790 --> 00:09:30,530 advertising that this is part of their 229 00:09:35,830 --> 00:09:33,800 group but they are I mean all of us that 230 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:35,840 are in it know now that they have that 231 00:09:39,100 --> 00:09:37,730 so we're referring people to them that's 232 00:09:41,530 --> 00:09:39,110 becoming kind of like a little 233 00:09:43,450 --> 00:09:41,540 underground movement within MUFON and I 234 00:09:45,490 --> 00:09:43,460 think it's amazing and you know they 235 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:45,500 can't just run out there and say oh yeah 236 00:09:50,170 --> 00:09:47,570 we're all about the contact Enix if they 237 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:50,180 did they lose their credibility and at 238 00:09:55,300 --> 00:09:52,850 that problem and then don't even get me 239 00:09:56,890 --> 00:09:55,310 started on what different group other 240 00:09:59,050 --> 00:09:56,900 groups are doing I want don't want to 241 00:10:00,730 --> 00:09:59,060 say their names because I just I'm tired 242 00:10:02,770 --> 00:10:00,740 of saying their names but here's know 243 00:10:07,060 --> 00:10:02,780 there's a bunch of groups out there that 244 00:10:08,380 --> 00:10:07,070 are run by ex-cia people and what 245 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:08,390 they're doing and I was just telling you 246 00:10:11,470 --> 00:10:10,010 guys this before the show but they're 247 00:10:14,110 --> 00:10:11,480 doing this on one hand they're saying 248 00:10:16,450 --> 00:10:14,120 okay everybody look at the you apps the 249 00:10:18,460 --> 00:10:16,460 the burn Antonette we're not calling me 250 00:10:20,470 --> 00:10:18,470 opposed anymore they're now unidentified 251 00:10:22,180 --> 00:10:20,480 aerial phenomena and they're up there 252 00:10:24,100 --> 00:10:22,190 and just take a look at them and keep 253 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:24,110 your eyes on them right right and while 254 00:10:28,780 --> 00:10:26,450 you're doing that and they've got these 255 00:10:31,180 --> 00:10:28,790 TV shows all about oh how the fighter 256 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:31,190 pilots a psalm and and how they're gonna 257 00:10:36,730 --> 00:10:33,770 go out you know look for them underwater 258 00:10:38,710 --> 00:10:36,740 and all this stuff's going on right what 259 00:10:41,290 --> 00:10:38,720 they're not telling you is that that 260 00:10:44,380 --> 00:10:41,300 same group of people have a whole bunch 261 00:10:49,090 --> 00:10:44,390 of scientists that are neuroscientist 262 00:10:51,970 --> 00:10:49,100 and hypnotherapist and mfps and remote 263 00:10:53,500 --> 00:10:51,980 viewers and all these guys and guess 264 00:10:55,330 --> 00:10:53,510 where they're at guess where they're 265 00:10:57,910 --> 00:10:55,340 hanging out on weekends you know with 266 00:10:59,850 --> 00:10:57,920 the contactees right well out with the 267 00:11:02,110 --> 00:10:59,860 contactees they're out with the major 268 00:11:05,260 --> 00:11:02,120 contactees they have but they put them 269 00:11:06,550 --> 00:11:05,270 through aegs they put him through a Roy 270 00:11:08,110 --> 00:11:06,560 shock test they've done 271 00:11:10,389 --> 00:11:08,120 profiles on them they've gotten their 272 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:10,399 blood samples they measured their brain 273 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:13,610 through an MRI they want to know how 274 00:11:17,139 --> 00:11:15,410 much white matters in their head they 275 00:11:20,019 --> 00:11:17,149 want to know everything you know why 276 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:20,029 because they know they know and deep 277 00:11:24,970 --> 00:11:22,370 down where they're not showing you on TV 278 00:11:27,549 --> 00:11:24,980 or looking at the you apps they know 279 00:11:30,879 --> 00:11:27,559 that that's the real deal here is that 280 00:11:32,739 --> 00:11:30,889 person's contact is the person they need 281 00:11:36,069 --> 00:11:32,749 to be talking to because you know what 282 00:11:38,199 --> 00:11:36,079 we are the magnets for the aliens and 283 00:11:40,329 --> 00:11:38,209 how else are they going to study them 284 00:11:43,030 --> 00:11:40,339 unless they go hang out with a magnet 285 00:11:45,699 --> 00:11:43,040 yeah that's so crazy how though the ones 286 00:11:48,939 --> 00:11:45,709 the one piece of the puzzle that kind of 287 00:11:51,759 --> 00:11:48,949 makes this entire thing tick is the one 288 00:11:53,769 --> 00:11:51,769 piece of the puzzle that also like has 289 00:11:54,939 --> 00:11:53,779 people discredit you you know and that's 290 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:54,949 the contactees 291 00:12:00,189 --> 00:11:57,410 that's it doesn't make any sense it's 292 00:12:02,410 --> 00:12:00,199 just mind-blowing to me yeah yeah well 293 00:12:03,970 --> 00:12:02,420 it's the old you know look this way 294 00:12:06,369 --> 00:12:03,980 while I'm doing this behind your back 295 00:12:07,869 --> 00:12:06,379 gets the wag the dog scenario it's the 296 00:12:10,660 --> 00:12:07,879 whole thing the government's been doing 297 00:12:13,059 --> 00:12:10,670 all along and trust me guys you know 298 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:13,069 about melinda Leslie she's an amazing 299 00:12:18,819 --> 00:12:16,490 researcher into who's behind the curtain 300 00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:18,829 her and I have been studying what we 301 00:12:23,189 --> 00:12:20,750 called The Wizard of Oz effect around 302 00:12:26,769 --> 00:12:23,199 this for at least thirty years now and 303 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:26,779 the problem we've got is very simple 304 00:12:30,910 --> 00:12:28,610 what I just said we've got all these 305 00:12:33,009 --> 00:12:30,920 people and it's all the same people 306 00:12:35,470 --> 00:12:33,019 they're all in their 80s now that 307 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:35,480 started this cover-up back in the early 308 00:12:40,389 --> 00:12:38,569 early 80s late 70s and they're still 309 00:12:42,939 --> 00:12:40,399 behind the scenes covering everything up 310 00:12:44,799 --> 00:12:42,949 there their faces may have changed a 311 00:12:46,900 --> 00:12:44,809 little we may have added a new player 312 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:46,910 here or there but it's basically the 313 00:12:51,129 --> 00:12:49,250 same group of people and if you want to 314 00:12:54,850 --> 00:12:51,139 call them majestic 12 go right ahead I 315 00:12:56,799 --> 00:12:54,860 don't have a problem but it's more than 316 00:12:59,230 --> 00:12:56,809 that it's what grant Cameron calls the 317 00:13:02,110 --> 00:12:59,240 cosmic 200 there's about two hundred 318 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:02,120 people involved and they come and go but 319 00:13:08,379 --> 00:13:04,970 it's the core 50 that have been there 320 00:13:11,199 --> 00:13:08,389 and you know dying off now I'm still you 321 00:13:13,809 --> 00:13:11,209 know in ten years they're 50% of those 322 00:13:15,549 --> 00:13:13,819 guys are gonna be gone maybe 70% yeah I 323 00:13:18,309 --> 00:13:15,559 was gonna ask do you do you think like 324 00:13:19,700 --> 00:13:18,319 are they grooming and I think the next 325 00:13:23,150 --> 00:13:19,710 generation 326 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:23,160 like dis creditors yes I do I absolutely 327 00:13:27,890 --> 00:13:25,650 think so I think you know somebody like 328 00:13:29,630 --> 00:13:27,900 Lou elizondo's probably gonna be the top 329 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:29,640 dog because he's probably gonna be 330 00:13:36,500 --> 00:13:32,490 whether they disguise it yeah then we've 331 00:13:39,580 --> 00:13:36,510 got like Diane paluska who is you know 332 00:13:42,410 --> 00:13:39,590 she's an amazing theologist that has 333 00:13:46,910 --> 00:13:42,420 realizes that alien contact is real and 334 00:13:49,310 --> 00:13:46,920 alien contact knees are a very important 335 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:49,320 piece to the puzzle and she's in her 40s 336 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:53,490 I think maybe yeah yeah I mean we've got 337 00:13:57,740 --> 00:13:55,290 this whole group of you know a little 338 00:13:59,540 --> 00:13:57,750 younger 40s and 50s crowd that I think 339 00:14:02,090 --> 00:13:59,550 they're bringing them in slowly and 340 00:14:04,070 --> 00:14:02,100 their church but the problem they've got 341 00:14:05,540 --> 00:14:04,080 is they can't brainwash them the way 342 00:14:07,190 --> 00:14:05,550 they did the middle of to see the all 343 00:14:11,330 --> 00:14:07,200 the guys that started this whole thing 344 00:14:12,710 --> 00:14:11,340 we're all ex-military right right and a 345 00:14:15,140 --> 00:14:12,720 lot of these people they're bringing in 346 00:14:17,270 --> 00:14:15,150 now or not so I don't know how they're 347 00:14:19,190 --> 00:14:17,280 gonna contain it maybe they used to and 348 00:14:20,810 --> 00:14:19,200 maybe that's not the plan you know I 349 00:14:22,820 --> 00:14:20,820 don't know what they're up to but my 350 00:14:25,490 --> 00:14:22,830 guess is that things are changing 351 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:25,500 rapidly around the whole subject and I 352 00:14:29,900 --> 00:14:28,170 think they're realizing at this point is 353 00:14:33,020 --> 00:14:29,910 they can't keep a lid on it like they 354 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:33,030 did for 50 60 years anymore and they 355 00:14:37,730 --> 00:14:35,130 can't control the narrative as well as 356 00:14:40,310 --> 00:14:37,740 they did all that time huh because it's 357 00:14:42,500 --> 00:14:40,320 Nina people are like okay they don't 358 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:42,510 like my conference very much I mean they 359 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:44,610 respect me for doing what I do I know 360 00:14:48,410 --> 00:14:46,650 they do you know deep in my heart I know 361 00:14:51,170 --> 00:14:48,420 these guys are going God how does she do 362 00:14:52,730 --> 00:14:51,180 this right but I'm the same breaths that 363 00:14:54,470 --> 00:14:52,740 go and Dan we wish you wouldn't do this 364 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:54,480 because you know she's getting all these 365 00:14:58,280 --> 00:14:56,130 people on stage that we're trying to 366 00:15:03,800 --> 00:14:58,290 keep quiet and away from the public yeah 367 00:15:05,990 --> 00:15:03,810 yeah I'm waiting for you know like the 368 00:15:09,110 --> 00:15:06,000 head of the CIA to call me any day now 369 00:15:12,140 --> 00:15:09,120 and shut me down but I'm joking no but 370 00:15:13,940 --> 00:15:12,150 in a way it's real because maybe they're 371 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:13,950 letting it happen this way maybe there 372 00:15:17,810 --> 00:15:16,290 may be they're actually behind me doing 373 00:15:19,970 --> 00:15:17,820 all this and I just don't even know it 374 00:15:22,070 --> 00:15:19,980 you know yeah I mean they'll probably be 375 00:15:24,410 --> 00:15:22,080 at your conference yeah someone 376 00:15:26,210 --> 00:15:24,420 undercover so but I show you this 377 00:15:28,820 --> 00:15:26,220 they'll be sending somebody to keep an 378 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:28,830 eye on it yeah definitely definitely 379 00:15:32,570 --> 00:15:31,290 so I have kind of a question it's it's 380 00:15:33,850 --> 00:15:32,580 it's kind of a side note but it's 381 00:15:35,980 --> 00:15:33,860 definitely related 382 00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:35,990 I'm about to I've kind of held off a 383 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:37,310 little bit because I want to give it the 384 00:15:43,300 --> 00:15:39,530 the proper attention that it deserves 385 00:15:46,090 --> 00:15:43,310 but I'm about to dive into Jacques 386 00:15:47,500 --> 00:15:46,100 Vallee like really hard and I heard that 387 00:15:50,470 --> 00:15:47,510 he's kind of like one of his most recent 388 00:15:51,850 --> 00:15:50,480 books really kind of names some people 389 00:15:55,570 --> 00:15:51,860 and has some really important 390 00:15:58,600 --> 00:15:55,580 information in it he does it's fabulous 391 00:16:00,070 --> 00:15:58,610 I am just I haven't even sitting on my 392 00:16:03,460 --> 00:16:00,080 shelf and I've been so busy I haven't 393 00:16:05,290 --> 00:16:03,470 had a chance to read it I have the index 394 00:16:09,190 --> 00:16:05,300 and I went through the index I was like 395 00:16:10,180 --> 00:16:09,200 oh my god it was for about six people on 396 00:16:12,250 --> 00:16:10,190 the planet 397 00:16:14,650 --> 00:16:12,260 I don't think Jacque even realizes this 398 00:16:16,210 --> 00:16:14,660 there's about six of us that salivated 399 00:16:20,170 --> 00:16:16,220 over this thing like it was a Penthouse 400 00:16:22,420 --> 00:16:20,180 magazine and we were 13 year old it was 401 00:16:25,540 --> 00:16:22,430 hysterical because it was like the day 402 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:25,550 came out I think Melinda got ahold of it 403 00:16:31,060 --> 00:16:27,290 and I think ranked camera got ahold of 404 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:31,070 it I got ahold of it I think that God 405 00:16:34,210 --> 00:16:32,570 I'm looking at his face but I can't say 406 00:16:37,150 --> 00:16:34,220 his name right it for the life of me 407 00:16:38,500 --> 00:16:37,160 come on it'll come to me oh yeah a bunch 408 00:16:41,260 --> 00:16:38,510 of us there were like seven or eight 409 00:16:43,780 --> 00:16:41,270 researchers that were like oh my god 410 00:16:46,420 --> 00:16:43,790 this answers all of the holes in all of 411 00:16:50,620 --> 00:16:46,430 our history about these guys right man 412 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:50,630 yeah it was it was phenomenal and like I 413 00:16:54,370 --> 00:16:52,250 said I haven't had a chance to really 414 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:54,380 dig into it yet after the conference I'm 415 00:16:57,790 --> 00:16:56,450 going to break out all my research and 416 00:17:00,490 --> 00:16:57,800 I'm gonna start filling in the holes 417 00:17:03,100 --> 00:17:00,500 with what he's talking about that's all 418 00:17:06,100 --> 00:17:03,110 because he answers so much in there and 419 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:06,110 people the problem is you guys a lot of 420 00:17:09,069 --> 00:17:07,490 people looked at that book and they went 421 00:17:10,750 --> 00:17:09,079 oh this is just a bunch of stuff you 422 00:17:13,329 --> 00:17:10,760 know it's a bunch of memoirs about what 423 00:17:16,510 --> 00:17:13,339 he did and who is with and who cares but 424 00:17:18,429 --> 00:17:16,520 what they don't understand is every one 425 00:17:22,860 --> 00:17:18,439 of those people he mentions in that book 426 00:17:27,100 --> 00:17:22,870 is a major player in the cover-up write 427 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:27,110 them all and I just okay and how did you 428 00:17:31,150 --> 00:17:28,970 know now here's the kicker you don't ask 429 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:31,160 you don't say well this is in this book 430 00:17:36,490 --> 00:17:33,290 does blah blah blah you say who in the 431 00:17:39,460 --> 00:17:36,500 heck let him publish it yeah publish the 432 00:17:41,500 --> 00:17:39,470 dang thing that means like what I was 433 00:17:43,510 --> 00:17:41,510 saying about just a few minutes ago is 434 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:43,520 they must be green-lighting all of this 435 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:47,210 exposure because it's time 436 00:17:50,830 --> 00:17:49,250 we're filling in pieces we did know 437 00:17:53,290 --> 00:17:50,840 they're not trying to hide it anymore 438 00:17:55,570 --> 00:17:53,300 they're letting me put on an event with 439 00:17:57,700 --> 00:17:55,580 their you know top five guys that 440 00:18:00,100 --> 00:17:57,710 they've been brain scanning and doing 441 00:18:02,110 --> 00:18:00,110 all kinds of things too and you know and 442 00:18:04,630 --> 00:18:02,120 they're letting me talk about it I mean 443 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:04,640 it's like if this had been 20 years ago 444 00:18:08,470 --> 00:18:06,890 or even 30 years ago there would have 445 00:18:10,450 --> 00:18:08,480 been men and black at my door and they 446 00:18:12,460 --> 00:18:10,460 would have threatened my life right yeah 447 00:18:15,970 --> 00:18:12,470 yeah you don't really know the minute 448 00:18:17,860 --> 00:18:15,980 black story as much anymore no no you 449 00:18:19,870 --> 00:18:17,870 don't hear about this stuff but what's 450 00:18:21,820 --> 00:18:19,880 really going on and I think they're 451 00:18:24,340 --> 00:18:21,830 shifting their whole attitude this is 452 00:18:25,510 --> 00:18:24,350 just my opinion folks I don't know but I 453 00:18:28,420 --> 00:18:25,520 think they're shifting their whole 454 00:18:31,990 --> 00:18:28,430 attitude to let's not cover up anymore 455 00:18:34,540 --> 00:18:32,000 let's figure out how to encompass the 456 00:18:37,150 --> 00:18:34,550 general public into this slowly with 457 00:18:40,390 --> 00:18:37,160 just look at the you apps up in the sky 458 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:40,400 folks and that takes care of about 99% 459 00:18:44,590 --> 00:18:42,170 of the public because they're all still 460 00:18:47,290 --> 00:18:44,600 looking up coming Oh UFOs are real you 461 00:18:49,780 --> 00:18:47,300 know yeah there's that and then they've 462 00:18:51,910 --> 00:18:49,790 got this one percent down here of major 463 00:18:54,220 --> 00:18:51,920 contact bees and people like myself and 464 00:18:56,890 --> 00:18:54,230 you guys have seen UFOs and and had 465 00:18:59,290 --> 00:18:56,900 contact or whatever and we're all going 466 00:19:01,030 --> 00:18:59,300 well okay they're letting them see the 467 00:19:03,130 --> 00:19:01,040 UFOs now and they know they're real and 468 00:19:05,230 --> 00:19:03,140 telling them they're real so when are 469 00:19:08,350 --> 00:19:05,240 they gonna get to us well we're an 470 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:08,360 afterthought later because we're way 471 00:19:13,420 --> 00:19:10,730 down the rabbit hole and these people 472 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:13,430 that they're talking to were the 99% of 473 00:19:17,260 --> 00:19:15,770 the population they can't even look down 474 00:19:18,850 --> 00:19:17,270 that rabbit hole yet because they're 475 00:19:21,910 --> 00:19:18,860 still looking up in the sky going is 476 00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:21,920 that real right right yeah they haven't 477 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:23,360 even looked at the footprints on the 478 00:19:29,290 --> 00:19:26,290 ground from the landed vehicles right 479 00:19:31,060 --> 00:19:29,300 yeah yep yeah because I mean now you're 480 00:19:33,550 --> 00:19:31,070 getting to a point to where like now 481 00:19:36,970 --> 00:19:33,560 people are finally like accepting the 482 00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:36,980 fact that that UFO is an actual thing 483 00:19:41,350 --> 00:19:39,440 right but like most of us that are like 484 00:19:43,180 --> 00:19:41,360 already researching this or into it like 485 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:43,190 we're way past that already we're like 486 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:45,650 we I know that they're real and now 487 00:19:49,750 --> 00:19:47,450 we're trying to get to like the core of 488 00:19:52,120 --> 00:19:49,760 the issue and everybody else seems to be 489 00:19:55,810 --> 00:19:52,130 just now catching up to the fact that oh 490 00:19:58,090 --> 00:19:55,820 you fo sir are an actual thing yeah yeah 491 00:20:00,490 --> 00:19:58,100 that's that's the deal here and that's 492 00:20:02,590 --> 00:20:00,500 you know and I'm so grateful that 493 00:20:05,050 --> 00:20:02,600 I live in the time I live in now and I'm 494 00:20:07,390 --> 00:20:05,060 doing what I do now because like I said 495 00:20:09,370 --> 00:20:07,400 30 years ago I can do this and I 496 00:20:10,750 --> 00:20:09,380 couldn't do anything like it cuz it 497 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:10,760 would just been like oh my god who's 498 00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:12,530 this woman trying to expose this okay 499 00:20:16,780 --> 00:20:14,240 shut her down you know kind of thing I 500 00:20:19,900 --> 00:20:16,790 could hear him talking about it right so 501 00:20:22,990 --> 00:20:19,910 crazy and there are some great movies 502 00:20:25,090 --> 00:20:23,000 out there I was thinking about this but 503 00:20:26,770 --> 00:20:25,100 if I don't know how your audience is I 504 00:20:28,930 --> 00:20:26,780 don't know if they're really educated 505 00:20:31,390 --> 00:20:28,940 into it or they're just new at this or 506 00:20:33,010 --> 00:20:31,400 whatever but there are some great movies 507 00:20:35,980 --> 00:20:33,020 out there folks that you really need to 508 00:20:37,870 --> 00:20:35,990 watch if you want to understand the UFO 509 00:20:41,530 --> 00:20:37,880 community and I would always suggest 510 00:20:44,530 --> 00:20:41,540 starting with I know what I saw by James 511 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:44,540 Fox and then his second movie which was 512 00:20:48,670 --> 00:20:46,970 I know what I saw two or something like 513 00:20:50,830 --> 00:20:48,680 that it's just a kind of continuation 514 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:50,840 and a beefed-up version of the first 515 00:20:55,380 --> 00:20:53,210 movie yeah yeah that that's super 516 00:20:57,910 --> 00:20:55,390 important that people understand that 517 00:21:00,160 --> 00:20:57,920 what he did he went it out in the 518 00:21:03,550 --> 00:21:00,170 earlier days you know and I think was in 519 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:03,560 the late 90s early 2000s and it started 520 00:21:08,740 --> 00:21:05,930 interviewing people for major sightings 521 00:21:11,740 --> 00:21:08,750 that had really never UFO before 522 00:21:14,020 --> 00:21:11,750 whatever and and said to him on camera 523 00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:14,030 you know this is what it was this is the 524 00:21:19,090 --> 00:21:16,400 site you know sighs this is how it 525 00:21:20,650 --> 00:21:19,100 looked I saw this I said that and he'd 526 00:21:22,060 --> 00:21:20,660 say well what do you you know what do 527 00:21:23,770 --> 00:21:22,070 you tell people when they say oh you 528 00:21:24,940 --> 00:21:23,780 know that can't be real and they'd say I 529 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:24,950 know what I saw 530 00:21:29,770 --> 00:21:27,890 right you know so that's the kicker here 531 00:21:31,660 --> 00:21:29,780 you know if you've seen it you know what 532 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:31,670 you saw in your life is never the same 533 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:34,370 again and this is what people need to 534 00:21:38,620 --> 00:21:36,410 understand so watching that movie even 535 00:21:40,180 --> 00:21:38,630 if you've never seen a UFO folks watch 536 00:21:41,770 --> 00:21:40,190 the movie because these are just 537 00:21:44,260 --> 00:21:41,780 ordinary people telling you what they 538 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:44,270 saw then the next movie you have to 539 00:21:49,330 --> 00:21:47,330 watch and it will blow your mind and you 540 00:21:52,020 --> 00:21:49,340 probably will be never the same again if 541 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:52,030 you accept it as a reality is 542 00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:55,370 extraordinary the Stan Roman Act story 543 00:22:03,060 --> 00:21:58,730 that is probably it is like the movie 544 00:22:05,470 --> 00:22:03,070 you have to watch or we'll never get it 545 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:05,480 right yeah yeah I've seen it I've seen 546 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:06,770 yeah it's awesome 547 00:22:09,580 --> 00:22:07,970 I remember that watching that for the 548 00:22:11,230 --> 00:22:09,590 first time and I like I couldn't go to 549 00:22:13,799 --> 00:22:11,240 sleep that night I was just like they're 550 00:22:17,489 --> 00:22:13,809 there they're everywhere 551 00:22:19,469 --> 00:22:17,499 yeah that's the thing they are 552 00:22:21,509 --> 00:22:19,479 everywhere but there is one thing that 553 00:22:23,700 --> 00:22:21,519 we're still trying to figure out as a 554 00:22:26,849 --> 00:22:23,710 community the UFO people and especially 555 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:26,859 the contact eases the question where but 556 00:22:30,719 --> 00:22:28,690 we've been asking for 10 years it's not 557 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:30,729 are they there what's going on it's why 558 00:22:37,649 --> 00:22:34,330 me all right very important question is 559 00:22:40,409 --> 00:22:37,659 why I got to be you know why I got to 560 00:22:42,299 --> 00:22:40,419 see UFO why I had a light beam by the 561 00:22:43,259 --> 00:22:42,309 side of my bed why this woman walks 562 00:22:45,060 --> 00:22:43,269 through my wall 563 00:22:48,079 --> 00:22:45,070 you know while these things happen to me 564 00:22:50,759 --> 00:22:48,089 now I am NOT a contact II contact II 565 00:22:54,209 --> 00:22:50,769 different than the rest of the guys I 566 00:22:55,919 --> 00:22:54,219 hang out with and that's a story unto 567 00:22:59,099 --> 00:22:55,929 itself and we'll talk about that here in 568 00:23:01,829 --> 00:22:59,109 a in a few minutes but every person who 569 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:01,839 is a contact D what happens is in that 570 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:04,210 moment that it happens you wake up the 571 00:23:09,029 --> 00:23:06,369 next day and you're not you haven't been 572 00:23:10,979 --> 00:23:09,039 the same since you saw the UFO and that 573 00:23:13,019 --> 00:23:10,989 you trust me you're never really even 574 00:23:15,089 --> 00:23:13,029 close to being a human being again after 575 00:23:21,089 --> 00:23:15,099 seeing three aliens standing over your 576 00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:21,099 bed absolutely like that you know it's 577 00:23:25,469 --> 00:23:23,710 it's you're wondering what the heck I 578 00:23:27,029 --> 00:23:25,479 did to deserve this kind of torture 579 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:27,039 right that's your first thought 580 00:23:34,079 --> 00:23:30,129 yes most people are afraid but 581 00:23:36,479 --> 00:23:34,089 eventually people were having more and 582 00:23:38,899 --> 00:23:36,489 more contact some people only have one 583 00:23:41,459 --> 00:23:38,909 or two contacts in their entire life and 584 00:23:44,249 --> 00:23:41,469 those are usually the ones that are in 585 00:23:46,139 --> 00:23:44,259 denial and afraid okay and we're 586 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:46,149 starting to break this down the more 587 00:23:51,629 --> 00:23:49,450 often you see them and the less they do 588 00:23:55,109 --> 00:23:51,639 something to you that feels like harm 589 00:23:57,899 --> 00:23:55,119 the more you get closer to them and try 590 00:24:00,089 --> 00:23:57,909 to understand their existence and try 591 00:24:02,039 --> 00:24:00,099 not to be afraid because what happens to 592 00:24:04,859 --> 00:24:02,049 every human being I've ever talked to 593 00:24:07,259 --> 00:24:04,869 who is had an encounter fear is so 594 00:24:10,619 --> 00:24:07,269 intense that you have to be almost a 595 00:24:13,919 --> 00:24:10,629 master yogi Dali Lama 596 00:24:17,399 --> 00:24:13,929 you know priest I don't know what to be 597 00:24:19,979 --> 00:24:17,409 kept that can get beyond the fear and 598 00:24:23,219 --> 00:24:19,989 it's very difficult to do that fear is 599 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:23,229 the biggest problem humans have and I 600 00:24:27,389 --> 00:24:25,450 gotta tell you guys something I have not 601 00:24:30,299 --> 00:24:27,399 been afraid my entire life 602 00:24:32,399 --> 00:24:30,309 most things and I'm starting to wonder 603 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:32,409 if this is just a thought that came up 604 00:24:36,690 --> 00:24:34,210 with me Melinda we were in Las Vegas 605 00:24:41,009 --> 00:24:36,700 last week gambling we got we got about 606 00:24:43,229 --> 00:24:41,019 three times a year yeah sitting there 607 00:24:45,060 --> 00:24:43,239 gambling we're like ya know it's so 608 00:24:46,709 --> 00:24:45,070 weird I've never been afraid and then 609 00:24:48,659 --> 00:24:46,719 she will gamble a bit to go 610 00:24:50,129 --> 00:24:48,669 yeah isn't that strange I wonder where 611 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:50,139 that comes from Andy will be sitting 612 00:24:57,839 --> 00:24:54,129 there doing like these Dali Lama playing 613 00:24:59,729 --> 00:24:57,849 baccarat right right so we're sitting 614 00:25:01,289 --> 00:24:59,739 there and I find said I had no fear she 615 00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:01,299 goes you know that's odd ever since my 616 00:25:04,889 --> 00:25:03,039 first encounter I haven't had much fear 617 00:25:07,950 --> 00:25:04,899 either and I said well what do you think 618 00:25:09,749 --> 00:25:07,960 the aliens are doing to the US and are 619 00:25:11,249 --> 00:25:09,759 like you know what I would call major 620 00:25:14,039 --> 00:25:11,259 contact because I don't consider myself 621 00:25:15,539 --> 00:25:14,049 and I definitely Melinda is one and I 622 00:25:17,820 --> 00:25:15,549 said what did they do to you guys maybe 623 00:25:19,889 --> 00:25:17,830 they take this fear away and we're 624 00:25:22,469 --> 00:25:19,899 blessed in the fact that we have this 625 00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:22,479 crazy I want to run from them and I 626 00:25:25,379 --> 00:25:23,769 don't want it to ever happen in my life 627 00:25:27,810 --> 00:25:25,389 again and I'm gonna flip out and I'm 628 00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:27,820 always insane over it to like I just 629 00:25:33,239 --> 00:25:29,440 accepted it and they're part of my life 630 00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:33,249 you know yeah I use it that she gets 631 00:25:37,229 --> 00:25:35,529 that and the other person doesn't I want 632 00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:37,239 to know that answer that's more 633 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:38,710 important to me than they're here 634 00:25:43,889 --> 00:25:40,210 because I know their error who cares 635 00:25:46,859 --> 00:25:43,899 right yeah yeah it's almost like they 636 00:25:49,529 --> 00:25:46,869 want you to get to know them you know on 637 00:25:52,109 --> 00:25:49,539 a certain level but it's almost like 638 00:25:53,729 --> 00:25:52,119 it's almost like there's so much to take 639 00:25:55,919 --> 00:25:53,739 in that even though you get the 640 00:25:58,649 --> 00:25:55,929 opportunity to try and get to know them 641 00:26:01,379 --> 00:25:58,659 it's it's almost like impossible because 642 00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:01,389 you're too busy like in awe of the whole 643 00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:05,049 situation it seems like well and then 644 00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:06,700 there's this other factor that every 645 00:26:12,269 --> 00:26:09,849 contactee will tell you they are so far 646 00:26:13,979 --> 00:26:12,279 beyond us in their mental capacity that 647 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:13,989 when they connect with you at that level 648 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:16,450 it's like touching I call it touching 649 00:26:21,509 --> 00:26:19,450 the face of God because you are open to 650 00:26:23,310 --> 00:26:21,519 the universe at that point you are one 651 00:26:25,649 --> 00:26:23,320 with everything you're one with them 652 00:26:28,499 --> 00:26:25,659 you're one with you're one with your God 653 00:26:30,899 --> 00:26:28,509 whatever that may be and there are no 654 00:26:32,849 --> 00:26:30,909 lies between you yeah that's the other 655 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:32,859 thing people don't get that this is so 656 00:26:36,659 --> 00:26:34,570 important once you've had that 657 00:26:39,659 --> 00:26:36,669 telepathic communication with another 658 00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:39,669 beam you can't you know it's hard to eat 659 00:26:43,049 --> 00:26:41,110 me you can't 660 00:26:45,870 --> 00:26:43,059 lie to people you got your integrity 661 00:26:47,340 --> 00:26:45,880 goes up like 4,000 fold and you hate 662 00:26:49,890 --> 00:26:47,350 yourself for everything you've ever done 663 00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:49,900 in your life that's been bad I remember 664 00:26:53,580 --> 00:26:52,240 spending a whole week in bed crying over 665 00:26:58,890 --> 00:26:53,590 all the horrible things I've done 666 00:27:01,470 --> 00:26:58,900 Oh worst wine for me was when I I got a 667 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:01,480 dog at one point and I it's a long story 668 00:27:06,930 --> 00:27:04,330 but I basically kind of sideways not on 669 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:06,940 purpose abused this dog because I locked 670 00:27:10,740 --> 00:27:09,130 it up on a chain in the backyard for 671 00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:10,750 long periods of time and I was just 672 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:11,440 stupid 673 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:14,410 and finally my grandfather had to take 674 00:27:18,330 --> 00:27:16,330 care of it and we got rid of it and I 675 00:27:20,850 --> 00:27:18,340 knit and I didn't realize until I 676 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:20,860 started having these major contacts what 677 00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:22,690 a horrible thing I'd been to that dog 678 00:27:27,060 --> 00:27:25,360 and I literally was torn crying and 679 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:27,070 torture over what I'd done to that dog 680 00:27:33,030 --> 00:27:30,730 you know and I realized something after 681 00:27:34,770 --> 00:27:33,040 I came out of that whole experience I 682 00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:34,780 thought is this what they talk about 683 00:27:39,270 --> 00:27:37,600 when you die that you have to face all 684 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:39,280 the horrible things you've done and 685 00:27:45,180 --> 00:27:42,730 relive them judges yes this is what the 686 00:27:47,940 --> 00:27:45,190 aliens have done for me yeah they've 687 00:27:50,669 --> 00:27:47,950 turned gaunt fact while I'm alive of the 688 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:50,679 horrible things I I have to live a life 689 00:27:55,980 --> 00:27:54,010 of purity yeah you know I'm using the 690 00:27:57,870 --> 00:27:55,990 word peer but you know you guys get what 691 00:28:01,620 --> 00:27:57,880 I'm saying yeah yeah there's no hiding 692 00:28:03,539 --> 00:28:01,630 anymore oh man I can't do anything and I 693 00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:03,549 have to stand up for myself and tell the 694 00:28:08,460 --> 00:28:05,440 truth all the time now when I'm in 695 00:28:10,890 --> 00:28:08,470 places and things happen I don't just 696 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:10,900 shrink back in the wall and go well it's 697 00:28:15,630 --> 00:28:13,690 not my problem I can't do that there's 698 00:28:18,419 --> 00:28:15,640 no way I can do that I confront you 699 00:28:20,909 --> 00:28:18,429 tonight if people are liars thieves you 700 00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:20,919 know whatever I'm gonna go out there and 701 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:23,110 tell the world and a lot of people hate 702 00:28:28,049 --> 00:28:25,330 me for it they absolutely hate me for it 703 00:28:29,850 --> 00:28:28,059 because I know on who's on those stages 704 00:28:33,060 --> 00:28:29,860 now that's lying and who's telling the 705 00:28:36,030 --> 00:28:33,070 truth and it causes real problems you 706 00:28:38,010 --> 00:28:36,040 know well I have to live with my reality 707 00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:38,020 I can't just shrink back here and be it 708 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:39,840 you know and be like everybody else 709 00:28:45,810 --> 00:28:42,250 we're certainly glad that you do that 710 00:28:48,330 --> 00:28:45,820 yeah yeah we we need we need that that 711 00:28:50,580 --> 00:28:48,340 that voice also I'm curious so like 712 00:28:52,289 --> 00:28:50,590 after where did you consider yourself a 713 00:28:55,259 --> 00:28:52,299 intuitive empath 714 00:28:59,159 --> 00:28:55,269 for your account we could get into all 715 00:29:01,529 --> 00:28:59,169 that now yes okay go well see this is 716 00:29:03,389 --> 00:29:01,539 really funny and Melinda and I laugh 717 00:29:04,979 --> 00:29:03,399 about this a lot because we have there's 718 00:29:06,509 --> 00:29:04,989 a group of women that go to these 719 00:29:08,549 --> 00:29:06,519 conferences and we call ourselves the 720 00:29:12,419 --> 00:29:08,559 RAC pack and I think you guys have heard 721 00:29:14,940 --> 00:29:12,429 that yeah and it's Jocelyn it's Melinda 722 00:29:17,070 --> 00:29:14,950 it's myself it's Misha Johnston it Stan 723 00:29:19,379 --> 00:29:17,080 we got like there's seven or eight of us 724 00:29:21,719 --> 00:29:19,389 that one of these conferences that are 725 00:29:25,169 --> 00:29:21,729 you know we've been psychic our entire 726 00:29:27,089 --> 00:29:25,179 lives and we now and we know it's not 727 00:29:29,249 --> 00:29:27,099 now no but we've known for a very long 728 00:29:33,180 --> 00:29:29,259 time the reason we're psychic is because 729 00:29:34,919 --> 00:29:33,190 we're all contact peace of sorts but for 730 00:29:37,379 --> 00:29:34,929 Melinda and Misha and a lot of the 731 00:29:39,329 --> 00:29:37,389 others their contact came early on and 732 00:29:42,180 --> 00:29:39,339 they were seeing crazes children I never 733 00:29:45,149 --> 00:29:42,190 saw them I've never had a great contact 734 00:29:46,859 --> 00:29:45,159 that I know of I've had here's my 735 00:29:49,129 --> 00:29:46,869 contacts very different so I'm gonna 736 00:29:51,930 --> 00:29:49,139 tell you guys about those yes please and 737 00:29:54,749 --> 00:29:51,940 it all started for me when I was 18 738 00:29:59,759 --> 00:29:54,759 months old I ate a bunch of rat poison 739 00:30:02,369 --> 00:29:59,769 and I and my grandmother we were we're 740 00:30:04,229 --> 00:30:02,379 at the beach and the beach from Portland 741 00:30:06,299 --> 00:30:04,239 Oregon is about 90 miles 742 00:30:09,180 --> 00:30:06,309 so we're 90 miles from the nearest 743 00:30:11,069 --> 00:30:09,190 hospital and my mother said oh she 744 00:30:12,959 --> 00:30:11,079 didn't eat enough and she's pulling it 745 00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:12,969 out of my mouth and my grandmother says 746 00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:15,279 oh my god it's rat poison we're going to 747 00:30:19,589 --> 00:30:16,329 the hospital right now 748 00:30:21,449 --> 00:30:19,599 so we everybody jumps in the car and 749 00:30:23,310 --> 00:30:21,459 they take me to the hospital and sure 750 00:30:25,529 --> 00:30:23,320 enough by the time they get me there I'm 751 00:30:28,049 --> 00:30:25,539 and this is gross but I'm starting to 752 00:30:31,399 --> 00:30:28,059 bleed through my skin because that's 753 00:30:34,169 --> 00:30:31,409 what rat poison does it melts your 754 00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:34,179 organs and it just breaks down all the 755 00:30:40,019 --> 00:30:37,089 red corpuscles in your body any a long 756 00:30:41,819 --> 00:30:40,029 story short I'm not doing well okay and 757 00:30:44,129 --> 00:30:41,829 they weren't sure I was gonna make it 758 00:30:46,709 --> 00:30:44,139 through the night so my dad and mom are 759 00:30:48,629 --> 00:30:46,719 freaking out and they had to run home 760 00:30:50,219 --> 00:30:48,639 for something I think they were running 761 00:30:52,259 --> 00:30:50,229 to him to get me clothes or them clothes 762 00:30:54,359 --> 00:30:52,269 I don't know what the story was but they 763 00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:54,369 left my grandmother by the crib they 764 00:30:59,159 --> 00:30:57,039 said my grandmother told me once it was 765 00:31:02,249 --> 00:30:59,169 about 12:00 midnight or 1:00 o'clock in 766 00:31:04,709 --> 00:31:02,259 the morning when they left and you're 767 00:31:05,820 --> 00:31:04,719 coming right back but and they said stay 768 00:31:07,529 --> 00:31:05,830 awake because 769 00:31:09,419 --> 00:31:07,539 anything goes wrong you want you to you 770 00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:09,429 know talk to the doctors right type of 771 00:31:13,289 --> 00:31:10,080 thing 772 00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:13,299 my grandmother sits down and she's 773 00:31:17,669 --> 00:31:15,519 trying to stay awake it she's by my crib 774 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:17,679 in the hospital and but she falls asleep 775 00:31:26,009 --> 00:31:21,610 and she says I woke up real quickly and 776 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:26,019 I saw the angel by your crib that I saw 777 00:31:30,210 --> 00:31:28,570 when I was about 13 years old and dying 778 00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:30,220 of the I don't know if she said 779 00:31:35,490 --> 00:31:32,470 rheumatic fever the flu or whatever was 780 00:31:37,620 --> 00:31:35,500 going on at the time she was dying once 781 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:37,630 and this angel came in her window at the 782 00:31:42,029 --> 00:31:40,090 farmhouse and said you're gonna be fine 783 00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:42,039 and you know I'm gonna take care of you 784 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:44,380 and blah blah blah and she was the next 785 00:31:47,970 --> 00:31:46,090 day she came out of it and she lived and 786 00:31:51,149 --> 00:31:47,980 they lost other kids in the family you 787 00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:51,159 know know so she said she saw the same 788 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:53,679 angel over my crib and she says I didn't 789 00:31:56,820 --> 00:31:55,450 talk to it but it talked to me so I 790 00:31:59,460 --> 00:31:56,830 apparently it was telepathically 791 00:32:01,980 --> 00:31:59,470 communicating with her and told her I 792 00:32:04,169 --> 00:32:01,990 was gonna be fine and then I had I had 793 00:32:06,649 --> 00:32:04,179 things to do you know this is always my 794 00:32:10,110 --> 00:32:06,659 story I've always got things to do and 795 00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:10,120 that I would be fine and my grandmother 796 00:32:14,850 --> 00:32:12,340 then she went after she saw the angel 797 00:32:17,639 --> 00:32:14,860 she just fell asleep and so like my 798 00:32:20,460 --> 00:32:17,649 parents come back from I know what 45 799 00:32:21,779 --> 00:32:20,470 minutes later and she's sound asleep and 800 00:32:23,490 --> 00:32:21,789 they're like why are you sleeping we 801 00:32:25,019 --> 00:32:23,500 told you not to sleep and this was the 802 00:32:27,060 --> 00:32:25,029 you know she always thought told me this 803 00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:27,070 she goes it's because I saw the angel 804 00:32:32,190 --> 00:32:29,760 and Laurie this is gonna be fine yeah 805 00:32:32,669 --> 00:32:32,200 she goes I'm going home I'm going back 806 00:32:35,639 --> 00:32:32,679 to sleep 807 00:32:37,289 --> 00:32:35,649 and so my parents were just furious they 808 00:32:38,940 --> 00:32:37,299 stayed with me and my grandmother goes 809 00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:38,950 home and she's like sleeping like a baby 810 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:42,480 because she doesn't have time right yeah 811 00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:45,490 and my parents never forgave her there I 812 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:47,350 said she was cold and callous about the 813 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:51,610 whole thing but I knew exactly it's like 814 00:32:58,889 --> 00:32:54,850 yeah we all know that right yeah so just 815 00:33:03,299 --> 00:32:58,899 I think that is when I had my first 816 00:33:06,090 --> 00:33:03,309 encounter with them and I believed that 817 00:33:08,580 --> 00:33:06,100 that was the moment they instilled the 818 00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:08,590 non fear in me I really do believe that 819 00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:11,440 down I'm 62 years old I believe that now 820 00:33:15,419 --> 00:33:13,510 if you'd asked me three years ago I may 821 00:33:17,669 --> 00:33:15,429 not have said that to you but I think 822 00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:17,679 that's when it started for me so from 823 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:19,360 that pond 824 00:33:24,330 --> 00:33:21,250 I'm now a little different than most 825 00:33:27,630 --> 00:33:24,340 people I'm now very sensitive I'm very 826 00:33:30,810 --> 00:33:27,640 empathic I get sick at the drop of a hat 827 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:30,820 if there's any kind of bad or evil or 828 00:33:35,250 --> 00:33:32,770 people are yelling or if there's 829 00:33:38,970 --> 00:33:35,260 something going on it's just it is ugly 830 00:33:41,130 --> 00:33:38,980 I reacting physically to it so my 831 00:33:44,430 --> 00:33:41,140 parents think I'm kind of a nutcase and 832 00:33:46,290 --> 00:33:44,440 you know I get really sick and and they 833 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:46,300 like why are you sick and then they take 834 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:47,890 me the doctor and there's nothing wrong 835 00:33:53,580 --> 00:33:50,050 with me but it's just that I can't take 836 00:33:55,860 --> 00:33:53,590 anything crazy you know and so I spend a 837 00:33:57,900 --> 00:33:55,870 lot of out of my my early years being 838 00:34:00,060 --> 00:33:57,910 very sensitive to everything around me I 839 00:34:02,370 --> 00:34:00,070 thought as I got older that kind of 840 00:34:07,620 --> 00:34:02,380 subsided and then I started seeing the 841 00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:07,630 future which is low and I start people I 842 00:34:11,130 --> 00:34:09,280 can see what was gonna happen to them 843 00:34:13,170 --> 00:34:11,140 and I'm not saying I can see it it's 844 00:34:15,630 --> 00:34:13,180 more like I can't explain it in it and 845 00:34:18,180 --> 00:34:15,640 what it parallels and this is even more 846 00:34:20,220 --> 00:34:18,190 interesting this is why I think all most 847 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:20,230 psychics are probably contact these of 848 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:23,530 sorts because what it parallels is the 849 00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:26,050 kind of information you get from an 850 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:30,790 alien ok or an angel is that same 851 00:34:37,620 --> 00:34:34,090 feeling I'm from another human being 852 00:34:40,410 --> 00:34:37,630 just same kind of feeling I got from the 853 00:34:43,470 --> 00:34:40,420 aliens or the angels or whatever was 854 00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:43,480 communicating to me it's it it it's like 855 00:34:47,970 --> 00:34:45,730 you're getting a picture but a feeling 856 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:47,980 and everything all at the same time in 857 00:34:52,170 --> 00:34:50,770 an instant behind you know something and 858 00:34:53,610 --> 00:34:52,180 you know something it's like you know 859 00:34:56,610 --> 00:34:53,620 the future you know what's gonna happen 860 00:34:59,010 --> 00:34:56,620 you can see everything that's going to 861 00:35:01,170 --> 00:34:59,020 happen in a fraction of a second it's 862 00:35:03,150 --> 00:35:01,180 like the universe opens up and dumps all 863 00:35:06,930 --> 00:35:03,160 this knowledge into your head in a way 864 00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:06,940 that is encapsulated in emotion you're 865 00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:09,520 all your five senses and pictures and 866 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:12,910 verbal and sound at the same time whoa 867 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:17,290 it's sensory overload almost yeah but 868 00:35:21,420 --> 00:35:19,210 that's how psychic see things and I 869 00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:21,430 finally got I was like oh this is how it 870 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:21,910 works 871 00:35:27,450 --> 00:35:24,130 psychics are just picking up all this 872 00:35:31,110 --> 00:35:27,460 stuff at once just like the aliens 873 00:35:32,590 --> 00:35:31,120 communicate and do how they do so there 874 00:35:35,530 --> 00:35:32,600 is something that happens in 875 00:35:37,660 --> 00:35:35,540 brain that a lot and dude this is why 876 00:35:39,940 --> 00:35:37,670 the guys are studying us this is why 877 00:35:42,790 --> 00:35:39,950 they're like what is these guys got that 878 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:42,800 we don't got right and this all and 879 00:35:47,230 --> 00:35:44,690 here's where the studying of how we 880 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:47,240 communicate with aliens or how psychics 881 00:35:54,820 --> 00:35:51,170 perceive you know scenarios or stories 882 00:35:56,980 --> 00:35:54,830 or information yeah is because of the 883 00:35:58,870 --> 00:35:56,990 remote viewing crowd I finally figured 884 00:36:01,120 --> 00:35:58,880 this out a few years ago to I was like 885 00:36:04,570 --> 00:36:01,130 oh the remote viewing crowd those are 886 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:04,580 all part of the cosmic 200 what did were 887 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:07,130 they doing in the 80s or 70s when they 888 00:36:11,470 --> 00:36:09,290 started this whole thing that got them 889 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:11,480 turned on to the psychics well the whole 890 00:36:16,660 --> 00:36:13,970 thing is psychics and remote viewers are 891 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:16,670 doing a piece of what the aliens do to 892 00:36:23,290 --> 00:36:20,930 us in their way they communicate so yeah 893 00:36:24,450 --> 00:36:23,300 I mean it's all it's very you know I 894 00:36:26,770 --> 00:36:24,460 don't want to go on and on about 895 00:36:28,420 --> 00:36:26,780 outworks and whatever because of the you 896 00:36:29,710 --> 00:36:28,430 know because we're on a show and a lot 897 00:36:34,570 --> 00:36:29,720 of people listening they're going to god 898 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:34,580 I don't know what she's but yeah so I 899 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:36,050 guess you get the different types of 900 00:36:42,130 --> 00:36:39,290 people together to kind of work this at 901 00:36:44,650 --> 00:36:42,140 the same time and you're you're kind of 902 00:36:47,830 --> 00:36:44,660 getting the full picture almost of what 903 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:47,840 they're able to do then exactly yeah and 904 00:36:52,930 --> 00:36:50,810 if and if most of the contactees could 905 00:36:54,580 --> 00:36:52,940 figure out how to communicate what's 906 00:36:57,100 --> 00:36:54,590 going on with them at the time they're 907 00:36:59,410 --> 00:36:57,110 actually talking to the alien then I 908 00:37:01,000 --> 00:36:59,420 think they'd get a real understanding of 909 00:37:02,830 --> 00:37:01,010 what's going on and I believe they are 910 00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:02,840 doing that I think you know whoever 911 00:37:07,690 --> 00:37:04,880 these guys are that are studying the 912 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:07,700 contact bees have now got a really good 913 00:37:13,180 --> 00:37:11,330 idea of how the aliens are communicating 914 00:37:14,890 --> 00:37:13,190 and I'll throw I'm going to throw one 915 00:37:18,790 --> 00:37:14,900 more thing in about this before I go 916 00:37:21,550 --> 00:37:18,800 back to my life story I do know and I 917 00:37:23,470 --> 00:37:21,560 don't know how I know this I'm not sure 918 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:23,480 if anybody told me or if I saw it 919 00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:25,490 because the aliens want me to know it 920 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:28,160 because I do get a lot of communication 921 00:37:33,730 --> 00:37:29,810 from them about what's going on in the 922 00:37:36,220 --> 00:37:33,740 field I have been I figured out about 923 00:37:38,350 --> 00:37:36,230 six months ago that the guys in the 924 00:37:42,010 --> 00:37:38,360 cosmic 200 what they're doing right now 925 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:42,020 is they're trying to build a device so 926 00:37:46,420 --> 00:37:44,330 that I could sit down on a headset like 927 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:46,430 I'm right now talking to you guys and 928 00:37:54,250 --> 00:37:51,050 to the aliens whoa oh that would be nice 929 00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:54,260 be awesome it's pretty nuts I know and 930 00:37:58,839 --> 00:37:56,000 just think about this what if there's 931 00:38:00,640 --> 00:37:58,849 you know 60 million aliens and we got 60 932 00:38:02,890 --> 00:38:00,650 million people on the planet and we can 933 00:38:05,170 --> 00:38:02,900 all have our own angel or alien to talk 934 00:38:08,829 --> 00:38:05,180 to is it a grant Cameron involved in 935 00:38:11,170 --> 00:38:08,839 that somehow I don't know I mean maybe I 936 00:38:12,970 --> 00:38:11,180 picked it up from Grant I don't know but 937 00:38:16,089 --> 00:38:12,980 my gut feeling tells me that's what 938 00:38:18,099 --> 00:38:16,099 they're doing and here's a little 939 00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:18,109 something about that I feel like I may 940 00:38:21,970 --> 00:38:20,000 have heard something about that but I 941 00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:21,980 listened to so much stuff that I get 942 00:38:28,690 --> 00:38:26,240 confused sometimes you know I picked up 943 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:28,700 on it maybe I I listened to grant show 944 00:38:33,700 --> 00:38:30,770 when they or heard something in passing 945 00:38:35,290 --> 00:38:33,710 but I had another one of what and I'll 946 00:38:36,970 --> 00:38:35,300 explain this to the audience to it I 947 00:38:38,770 --> 00:38:36,980 need to tell them this I have these 948 00:38:41,950 --> 00:38:38,780 downloads and that's the only way I can 949 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:41,960 describe them I've had them all my life 950 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:46,130 but even much more so since 2009 when I 951 00:38:52,839 --> 00:38:50,690 almost died after 2009 they come not all 952 00:38:55,539 --> 00:38:52,849 the time now but they're pretty regular 953 00:38:58,270 --> 00:38:55,549 and they answer all my questions and all 954 00:39:00,730 --> 00:38:58,280 I have to do is go tell me the answer 955 00:39:03,819 --> 00:39:00,740 and I'll go to sleep and I'll my upper 956 00:39:06,130 --> 00:39:03,829 body will start vibrating and I'll be 957 00:39:09,339 --> 00:39:06,140 half asleep and half awake and I get 958 00:39:11,740 --> 00:39:09,349 this like bombardment of information and 959 00:39:14,980 --> 00:39:11,750 Wow there's no way to describe it to 960 00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:14,990 people but it's really cool and and I 961 00:39:19,180 --> 00:39:16,240 gotta tell ya 962 00:39:20,980 --> 00:39:19,190 90% of the time when it happens I tell 963 00:39:26,589 --> 00:39:20,990 them leave me alone I'm trying to sleep 964 00:39:28,809 --> 00:39:26,599 and I roll over and go back to bed truth 965 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:28,819 is I don't really care cuz I got a 966 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:30,530 million things going on and it's like 967 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:32,450 don't tell me one more dang thing 968 00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:33,650 because I don't have time to deal with 969 00:39:40,660 --> 00:39:37,280 it ya know is there like a physical 970 00:39:43,089 --> 00:39:40,670 sensation to that or does it start yeah 971 00:39:46,289 --> 00:39:43,099 it starts with my it's it starts between 972 00:39:48,910 --> 00:39:46,299 the though where they call that this 973 00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:48,920 specula is your shoulder blades in the 974 00:39:53,650 --> 00:39:51,440 back it starts there and then it 975 00:39:56,770 --> 00:39:53,660 radiates throughout my arms and down 976 00:39:59,800 --> 00:39:56,780 into my torso and up into my head and I 977 00:40:01,120 --> 00:39:59,810 start rating from the inside out 978 00:40:04,270 --> 00:40:01,130 that's the only way to describe it 979 00:40:07,930 --> 00:40:04,280 that's crazy huh what straight serve I 980 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:07,940 pray being at such a micro vibration 981 00:40:12,130 --> 00:40:10,010 that's like I'm buzzy you know that 982 00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:12,140 feeling when you're wit your body part 983 00:40:17,020 --> 00:40:13,520 is falling asleep and you're waking up 984 00:40:24,910 --> 00:40:17,030 oh yeah yeah but not as intense and it's 985 00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:24,920 in a whole area of my body whoa at the 986 00:40:30,490 --> 00:40:27,200 same time I have to be in what they call 987 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:30,500 as a delta yep I have to be right 988 00:40:34,540 --> 00:40:32,090 between awake and asleep 989 00:40:37,930 --> 00:40:34,550 uh-huh yeah okay they're like a rim that 990 00:40:40,540 --> 00:40:37,940 RIM area frequencies where you wake up 991 00:40:42,970 --> 00:40:40,550 it's like that spot right it's the one 992 00:40:44,890 --> 00:40:42,980 level before it's like right falling 993 00:40:46,930 --> 00:40:44,900 asleep or right waking up I can't I 994 00:40:48,910 --> 00:40:46,940 don't know what they call it it's not 995 00:40:52,570 --> 00:40:48,920 REM sleep because in RAM you're totally 996 00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:52,580 out right right it's it's just where you 997 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:54,110 open your eyes and you're just barely 998 00:41:01,630 --> 00:40:57,530 aware you're in your bed I think we've 999 00:41:03,370 --> 00:41:01,640 talked about kind of experiencing this 1000 00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:03,380 sensation as you're going to sleep 1001 00:41:07,180 --> 00:41:04,640 sometimes I think we talked about it 1002 00:41:09,340 --> 00:41:07,190 like yeah they're loud noises or yeah 1003 00:41:12,070 --> 00:41:09,350 yeah it sounds like it's right in your 1004 00:41:13,420 --> 00:41:12,080 ear have you ever experienced that 1005 00:41:16,330 --> 00:41:13,430 Lorien is it here is it kind of like 1006 00:41:19,210 --> 00:41:16,340 that like I think I told you in the last 1007 00:41:22,180 --> 00:41:19,220 show I was lame Bedouin night many years 1008 00:41:24,910 --> 00:41:22,190 ago just falling asleep and I swear to 1009 00:41:27,580 --> 00:41:24,920 God I heard someone yell in my ear right 1010 00:41:31,420 --> 00:41:27,590 next to my ear hello can you hear me 1011 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:31,430 yeah yeah definitely my god they're like 1012 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:33,290 jumped up and I'm looking around the 1013 00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:34,970 room cuz I thought it ghosts in the room 1014 00:41:39,610 --> 00:41:36,560 and he's trying to communicate with 1015 00:41:42,910 --> 00:41:39,620 that's what I really thought and I 1016 00:41:44,860 --> 00:41:42,920 called my sister who's a doctor and I 1017 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:44,870 said to her hey have you ever heard 1018 00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:46,370 voices when you're falling asleep she 1019 00:41:50,770 --> 00:41:49,040 goes oh that's just audio noise this or 1020 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:50,780 that you know whatever's keep up with 1021 00:41:56,350 --> 00:41:53,930 some excuse for it but I know there was 1022 00:41:59,710 --> 00:41:56,360 a ghost yelling in my ear I know it it's 1023 00:42:01,480 --> 00:41:59,720 crazy but never yelled either she goes 1024 00:42:03,220 --> 00:42:01,490 the stuff in your head you know what 1025 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:03,230 happened I go I would never yelled that 1026 00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:06,890 in a male's voice into my ear right yeah 1027 00:42:10,810 --> 00:42:09,110 yeah no I mean we look because we talked 1028 00:42:12,490 --> 00:42:10,820 about that too and it's crazy because it 1029 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:12,500 sounds like it's right there and 1030 00:42:16,570 --> 00:42:15,530 sounds extremely real and neither one of 1031 00:42:18,130 --> 00:42:16,580 us know what that is 1032 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:18,140 I mean we tried to google it but I mean 1033 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:20,210 you know there's just I don't know 1034 00:42:24,010 --> 00:42:22,010 whatever answers we come up with on 1035 00:42:26,830 --> 00:42:24,020 Google it just doesn't seem to satisfy 1036 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:26,840 what it is that you heard right 1037 00:42:31,870 --> 00:42:30,290 yep they call it some kind I do God 1038 00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:31,880 there was a word for it she used but 1039 00:42:36,340 --> 00:42:34,730 yeah it's audio repetitive or something 1040 00:42:38,860 --> 00:42:36,350 like that where you hear things that 1041 00:42:40,420 --> 00:42:38,870 you've like watched on TV or something 1042 00:42:42,820 --> 00:42:40,430 like that because you're just falling 1043 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:42,830 asleep and you're actually starting to 1044 00:42:50,410 --> 00:42:45,530 dream while you're still set a little 1045 00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:50,420 conscious that's oh [\h__\h] and so she said 1046 00:42:55,390 --> 00:42:52,400 it's probably the beginning of your 1047 00:42:57,310 --> 00:42:55,400 dream I said nah there's no beginning of 1048 00:43:00,000 --> 00:42:57,320 no dream this is somebody trying to get 1049 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:03,550 maybe times it is that I totally get 1050 00:43:09,070 --> 00:43:07,010 that yeah totally you know start to fall 1051 00:43:12,610 --> 00:43:09,080 asleep and still be a little conscious 1052 00:43:15,940 --> 00:43:12,620 before they actually go under and I get 1053 00:43:17,770 --> 00:43:15,950 that you know but but not not for me not 1054 00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:17,780 that time and probably not for you guys 1055 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:19,520 either because you know there's another 1056 00:43:23,170 --> 00:43:21,290 thing you guys know that I've told you 1057 00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:23,180 before you wouldn't be doing what you're 1058 00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:24,710 doing right now if you weren't in some 1059 00:43:30,070 --> 00:43:28,400 way involved yeah yeah I think about 1060 00:43:38,410 --> 00:43:30,080 that office I I definitely think about 1061 00:43:41,050 --> 00:43:38,420 that - yeah I was like thinking about 1062 00:43:45,010 --> 00:43:41,060 this the other day I I wonder if I would 1063 00:43:47,260 --> 00:43:45,020 be too afraid to get like regressed you 1064 00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:47,270 know like I don't know if I want to do 1065 00:43:51,130 --> 00:43:49,040 that because if I found out that I've 1066 00:43:54,850 --> 00:43:51,140 I've been abducted like it would be hope 1067 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:54,860 you really weird yeah we were like okay 1068 00:43:58,450 --> 00:43:56,690 so I just don't remember it right yeah 1069 00:44:00,040 --> 00:43:58,460 yeah which is kind of what happened to 1070 00:44:01,300 --> 00:44:00,050 you right Lauren I mean you you don't 1071 00:44:04,510 --> 00:44:01,310 want to go through that because you 1072 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:04,520 don't want to know I'd I'm one of the 1073 00:44:08,410 --> 00:44:06,170 few people out there and they still look 1074 00:44:09,790 --> 00:44:08,420 at me like we were if we are in Vegas 1075 00:44:12,430 --> 00:44:09,800 and we were with Mischa and she's a 1076 00:44:14,530 --> 00:44:12,440 hypnotherapist and we're sitting on the 1077 00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:14,540 couch and and Melinda said something but 1078 00:44:17,410 --> 00:44:16,250 I've gotta go get regrets and me she 1079 00:44:20,050 --> 00:44:17,420 looked at me goes what are you getting 1080 00:44:23,350 --> 00:44:20,060 yours done I like that 1081 00:44:25,450 --> 00:44:23,360 laughing but I did say there I said 1082 00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:25,460 Mischa if I ever decide to do it you're 1083 00:44:30,190 --> 00:44:27,110 gonna be the one to do it you know you 1084 00:44:32,590 --> 00:44:30,200 go but you do I don't want to know 1085 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:32,600 there's a reason why don't because I've 1086 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:34,970 never had the great contact I know I 1087 00:44:38,290 --> 00:44:37,370 have had a reptilian contact but it was 1088 00:44:40,510 --> 00:44:38,300 invisible 1089 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:40,520 I do know that happen because I was 1090 00:44:48,790 --> 00:44:42,650 there for it so I want to know I want to 1091 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:48,800 know about that yeah tell us about tell 1092 00:44:55,930 --> 00:44:52,490 us about that experience well I I've had 1093 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:55,940 so many experiences where I was awake 1094 00:44:59,320 --> 00:44:57,770 see this is the other problem and I'm 1095 00:45:01,720 --> 00:44:59,330 just gonna go down this road for one 1096 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:01,730 second most of your people that you talk 1097 00:45:06,310 --> 00:45:03,290 to you that I've had hypnotherapy is 1098 00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:06,320 because they can't remember okay I can 1099 00:45:10,870 --> 00:45:08,480 remember all of my experiences but 1100 00:45:15,460 --> 00:45:10,880 they're not with ETS they're mostly with 1101 00:45:18,010 --> 00:45:15,470 ghosts or you know phenomenon or you 1102 00:45:18,850 --> 00:45:18,020 know whatever and it has nothing to do 1103 00:45:21,460 --> 00:45:18,860 with ETS 1104 00:45:25,780 --> 00:45:21,470 oh and I've seen a lot not a lot one two 1105 00:45:28,930 --> 00:45:25,790 three four five six or seven UFOs and 1106 00:45:32,110 --> 00:45:28,940 some of them up close they're really low 1107 00:45:35,230 --> 00:45:32,120 you know wow so I know I saw I was awake 1108 00:45:37,570 --> 00:45:35,240 for all this stuff I I and people say 1109 00:45:39,130 --> 00:45:37,580 all the time if you saw him that close 1110 00:45:41,170 --> 00:45:39,140 and they were there you must have had 1111 00:45:42,850 --> 00:45:41,180 alien contact too and I'm like well 1112 00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:42,860 probably but I don't care if I have 1113 00:45:46,780 --> 00:45:45,110 because what difference does it make 1114 00:45:47,830 --> 00:45:46,790 it's not gonna change anything for me 1115 00:45:49,660 --> 00:45:47,840 yes I know 1116 00:45:50,980 --> 00:45:49,670 I believe er I don't need to be 1117 00:45:53,290 --> 00:45:50,990 convinced and I don't need therapy 1118 00:45:54,730 --> 00:45:53,300 around it because I've accepted it yeah 1119 00:45:58,060 --> 00:45:54,740 absolutely absolutely 1120 00:46:01,060 --> 00:45:58,070 what does it make but for the people who 1121 00:46:02,890 --> 00:46:01,070 have had really strange and and not so 1122 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:02,900 good things happen to them as they 1123 00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:05,930 perceive it and in whatever like if 1124 00:46:10,090 --> 00:46:07,520 they've had if they've been beaten up by 1125 00:46:11,380 --> 00:46:10,100 a reptilian God you know bless them they 1126 00:46:13,300 --> 00:46:11,390 need to get regressed because they've 1127 00:46:15,610 --> 00:46:13,310 got to face that fear you know or 1128 00:46:18,370 --> 00:46:15,620 whatever happened to right and those 1129 00:46:21,310 --> 00:46:18,380 stories are so rare though I mean if you 1130 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:21,320 look at the gray aliens that have been 1131 00:46:27,790 --> 00:46:23,690 you know doing these you know what we 1132 00:46:29,650 --> 00:46:27,800 call hybrid programs those guys they're 1133 00:46:31,780 --> 00:46:29,660 just doing their job they're not there 1134 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:31,790 to hurt yet you know but they they don't 1135 00:46:35,410 --> 00:46:33,570 really care if you're in pain or 1136 00:46:39,830 --> 00:46:35,420 if you're upset or if you know right 1137 00:46:42,050 --> 00:46:39,840 yeah that's what makes it scary yeah 1138 00:46:44,420 --> 00:46:42,060 yeah and so back to the whole 1139 00:46:46,250 --> 00:46:44,430 hypnotherapy thing I I wouldn't do it 1140 00:46:48,410 --> 00:46:46,260 unless you have something that's 1141 00:46:51,590 --> 00:46:48,420 happened that's traumatized you and you 1142 00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:51,600 could feel it in your psyche because if 1143 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:53,730 you could traumatize you know it and ask 1144 00:46:59,600 --> 00:46:56,850 any vet who's who's been through war 1145 00:47:01,310 --> 00:46:59,610 yeah yeah there are things that you just 1146 00:47:03,980 --> 00:47:01,320 don't want to remember that you know you 1147 00:47:04,430 --> 00:47:03,990 did that we're and you got to deal with 1148 00:47:07,790 --> 00:47:04,440 it 1149 00:47:09,620 --> 00:47:07,800 you just got a deal yeah yeah I think I 1150 00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:09,630 don't know I don't feel like I've been 1151 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:11,880 traumatized but you know I just I've 1152 00:47:15,620 --> 00:47:13,410 seen so many weird things in the sky 1153 00:47:18,980 --> 00:47:15,630 it's like man what if there's more I 1154 00:47:20,930 --> 00:47:18,990 would do it I don't know my kid says you 1155 00:47:26,210 --> 00:47:20,940 probably have had some type of contact 1156 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:26,220 then no they who have seen them really 1157 00:47:30,380 --> 00:47:28,050 had some kind of contact I mean 1158 00:47:31,850 --> 00:47:30,390 everybody the big joke in the community 1159 00:47:35,300 --> 00:47:31,860 is if you've seen one you're either 1160 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:35,310 being picked up or dropped off oh that's 1161 00:47:43,670 --> 00:47:38,850 cool dude so that means they like us - 1162 00:47:45,860 --> 00:47:43,680 yeah dude they like us see there you go 1163 00:47:48,890 --> 00:47:45,870 well okay what was the question it was 1164 00:47:51,470 --> 00:47:48,900 about being psychic or something along 1165 00:47:53,870 --> 00:47:51,480 those all that reptilian content tell me 1166 00:47:57,260 --> 00:47:53,880 well yeah so you guys that's where I was 1167 00:47:58,880 --> 00:47:57,270 leaving Las Vegas back in 2014 from my 1168 00:48:00,500 --> 00:47:58,890 super soldier and mind control 1169 00:48:03,980 --> 00:48:00,510 conference that I was putting on at the 1170 00:48:07,790 --> 00:48:03,990 Gold Coast hotel and I was driving back 1171 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:07,800 on the ten towards is it what town is 1172 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:09,450 that I don't remember Stowe it is 1173 00:48:14,090 --> 00:48:12,690 Barstow and I was just passed Pern I 1174 00:48:16,460 --> 00:48:14,100 don't know if people know where that is 1175 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:16,470 it's about 11 miles outside of Los just 1176 00:48:20,510 --> 00:48:18,810 heading towards LA and I'm sitting in 1177 00:48:22,820 --> 00:48:20,520 the car and I'm thinking about the 1178 00:48:25,850 --> 00:48:22,830 conference and just a bunch of things 1179 00:48:28,730 --> 00:48:25,860 and the next thing I know I feel 1180 00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:28,740 pressure around my stomach from back 1181 00:48:34,730 --> 00:48:32,310 behind car seat like someone's reaching 1182 00:48:37,450 --> 00:48:34,740 through the car seat and hugging me 1183 00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:37,460 around my weight 1184 00:48:43,490 --> 00:48:41,280 it wasn't defined as arms but it felt 1185 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:43,500 like you know I'm being squeezed I'm 1186 00:48:47,330 --> 00:48:46,050 like what the heck the next thing I know 1187 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:47,340 I 1188 00:48:56,090 --> 00:48:54,570 sneak the Frog and they're either cheek 1189 00:48:59,120 --> 00:48:56,100 up against my cheek 1190 00:49:02,600 --> 00:48:59,130 whoa both facing the front okay 1191 00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:02,610 and I feel this cheek on my cheek and it 1192 00:49:09,170 --> 00:49:04,110 feels like snakeskin 1193 00:49:11,540 --> 00:49:09,180 okay what and I'm like what's going on 1194 00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:11,550 and I'm trying to stay driving on the 1195 00:49:16,580 --> 00:49:14,400 rough but I can't go 75 or 80 miles an 1196 00:49:18,290 --> 00:49:16,590 hour in the fast lane and this is 1197 00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:18,300 starting to happen and I'm like oh my 1198 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:20,730 god I'm starting to get over to the slow 1199 00:49:26,180 --> 00:49:22,530 lane cuz I don't know what's happening 1200 00:49:29,150 --> 00:49:26,190 to me okay Wow so I get it slow lane and 1201 00:49:32,780 --> 00:49:29,160 I'm now down to about 55 miles an hour 1202 00:49:34,940 --> 00:49:32,790 and I hear a voice in my head right in 1203 00:49:56,780 --> 00:49:34,950 that ear right where the cheek is up 1204 00:49:59,450 --> 00:49:56,790 against my cheek and he goes yeah they 1205 00:50:00,770 --> 00:49:59,460 might you're like you know what I'm not 1206 00:50:02,630 --> 00:50:00,780 gonna tell you guys what I hear the rest 1207 00:50:05,690 --> 00:50:02,640 of but I can tell you this it was good 1208 00:50:08,900 --> 00:50:05,700 it was all good stuff and very 1209 00:50:11,150 --> 00:50:08,910 interesting stuff and lasted about you 1210 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:11,160 know three or four sentences worth and 1211 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:16,170 then he was gone and it was he and I 1212 00:50:24,110 --> 00:50:19,290 know he was there but I couldn't see him 1213 00:50:25,850 --> 00:50:24,120 okay fast forward to about six months 1214 00:50:28,390 --> 00:50:25,860 later I'm at another conference and 1215 00:50:31,460 --> 00:50:28,400 Barbara Lam is being interviewed by me 1216 00:50:33,290 --> 00:50:31,470 and Barbara starts to tell verse I know 1217 00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:33,300 her story about the reptilian that 1218 00:50:38,990 --> 00:50:36,960 appeared in her living room and you know 1219 00:50:41,420 --> 00:50:39,000 she's telling that whole story and then 1220 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:41,430 the end of it she goes oh yeah sometimes 1221 00:50:46,310 --> 00:50:43,290 they'll appear while you're driving your 1222 00:50:49,070 --> 00:50:46,320 car in the backseat and I'm like and I 1223 00:50:51,020 --> 00:50:49,080 and I said broke down on a piece of 1224 00:50:53,720 --> 00:50:51,030 paper while she's talking I said stay 1225 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:53,730 afterwards and talk to me so she did and 1226 00:50:57,380 --> 00:50:55,410 I told her my whole story she laughed 1227 00:50:58,940 --> 00:50:57,390 she goes yeah they probably didn't 1228 00:51:00,690 --> 00:50:58,950 appear to you because they knew you'd 1229 00:51:04,859 --> 00:51:00,700 crash the car and kill your 1230 00:51:07,260 --> 00:51:04,869 dan what is what crazy timing to do that 1231 00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:07,270 while you're on the highway to like what 1232 00:51:11,700 --> 00:51:09,910 they should've waited while while you're 1233 00:51:15,059 --> 00:51:11,710 in like a drive-thru window or something 1234 00:51:16,799 --> 00:51:15,069 I was like why didn't the hell Barbaro 1235 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:16,809 are they gonna appear in the backseat of 1236 00:51:21,770 --> 00:51:18,490 your car you look at him in the rearview 1237 00:51:24,030 --> 00:51:21,780 mirror everybody would die if that I 1238 00:51:26,910 --> 00:51:24,040 remember I was driving down the highway 1239 00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:26,920 one time and I used to live out in the 1240 00:51:30,299 --> 00:51:28,480 country and occasionally like you know 1241 00:51:32,700 --> 00:51:30,309 there's big like wolf spiders will get 1242 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:32,710 in your car and I'm driving and I'm 1243 00:51:36,660 --> 00:51:34,450 looking in the rearview mirror and I see 1244 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:36,670 a spider and it's right above my my 1245 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:38,290 shoulder because I had these big bench 1246 00:51:42,359 --> 00:51:40,450 seats in my Impala and it's right over 1247 00:51:44,220 --> 00:51:42,369 the shoulder and I damn near killed 1248 00:51:46,349 --> 00:51:44,230 everybody on the highway like I I 1249 00:51:48,510 --> 00:51:46,359 immediately pulled over freaked out 1250 00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:48,520 slammed on my break it wasn't a pretty 1251 00:51:54,180 --> 00:51:51,040 situation so I can't imagine seeing a 1252 00:51:55,470 --> 00:51:54,190 reptilian today in my back seat he 1253 00:51:57,900 --> 00:51:55,480 better hope he's wearing a seat belt 1254 00:52:02,220 --> 00:51:57,910 that's for sure 1255 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:02,230 we're all dying I told you guys I 1256 00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:04,210 laughed so hard with Barbara that day I 1257 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:06,400 was like so this really happened to me 1258 00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:07,930 she goes yeah she goes he just wasn't 1259 00:52:12,599 --> 00:52:09,670 visible to you because he knew you'd 1260 00:52:13,140 --> 00:52:12,609 probably kill you damn yeah that makes 1261 00:52:15,780 --> 00:52:13,150 sense 1262 00:52:18,059 --> 00:52:15,790 Wow yeah it was it was a very 1263 00:52:19,770 --> 00:52:18,069 interesting encounter what he told me 1264 00:52:21,089 --> 00:52:19,780 was very powerful I don't want to talk 1265 00:52:23,579 --> 00:52:21,099 about it on air because it's very 1266 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:23,589 personal sure right but yeah it was 1267 00:52:28,829 --> 00:52:25,690 trippy and I was so flipped out you guys 1268 00:52:31,859 --> 00:52:28,839 there was a there's a rest stop about 15 1269 00:52:33,630 --> 00:52:31,869 miles further on and I and I pulled into 1270 00:52:40,289 --> 00:52:33,640 the rest up and I sat there for an hour 1271 00:52:42,839 --> 00:52:40,299 and a half stating literally yes so yeah 1272 00:52:45,809 --> 00:52:42,849 I wasn't flipped out emotionally but it 1273 00:52:48,450 --> 00:52:45,819 just was it was the first time a visible 1274 00:52:51,359 --> 00:52:48,460 beam had come up to me and talked to me 1275 00:52:54,150 --> 00:52:51,369 and while I was doing something like 1276 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:54,160 driving I mean I I have no problem with 1277 00:52:58,380 --> 00:52:56,650 invisible beans by my bed whispering to 1278 00:53:02,340 --> 00:52:58,390 me I don't care about any of that but 1279 00:53:08,830 --> 00:53:06,460 yeah you hear that out there it don't 1280 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:08,840 show up while we're driving yeah 1281 00:53:15,130 --> 00:53:10,490 don't show up in the corner of my room 1282 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:15,140 either yeah don't watch me while there's 1283 00:53:20,290 --> 00:53:17,450 all these stories about people driving 1284 00:53:23,110 --> 00:53:20,300 their cars and their car and them are 1285 00:53:25,180 --> 00:53:23,120 picked up and taken to wherever the ship 1286 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:25,190 is or in the ship or what have you and 1287 00:53:30,580 --> 00:53:27,410 then the whole car and they are put back 1288 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:30,590 down on the road driving and they wake 1289 00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:32,210 up and they're driving their car and 1290 00:53:35,740 --> 00:53:33,680 they're like ninety miles away from 1291 00:53:39,150 --> 00:53:35,750 where they originally were oh my god 1292 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:39,160 they don't remember any of it in between 1293 00:53:44,740 --> 00:53:41,650 [Music] 1294 00:53:47,500 --> 00:53:44,750 you know and this is why and I gotta say 1295 00:53:49,330 --> 00:53:47,510 this is why these guys have been keeping 1296 00:53:51,940 --> 00:53:49,340 this a secret all these years because 1297 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:51,950 stuff like that happens right and you 1298 00:53:58,090 --> 00:53:55,970 can't do anything about it really do 1299 00:54:00,910 --> 00:53:58,100 they don't know why I mean how they're 1300 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:00,920 doing it they they don't know really why 1301 00:54:05,230 --> 00:54:03,170 but I think the contactees are starting 1302 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:05,240 to clued them in enough us have been 1303 00:54:10,300 --> 00:54:07,850 experiencing this long enough to start 1304 00:54:12,130 --> 00:54:10,310 asking the tough questions you know like 1305 00:54:15,310 --> 00:54:12,140 I I'm always asking the tough questions 1306 00:54:17,950 --> 00:54:15,320 like here's one for eyes are there any 1307 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:17,960 blind contact bees that's something I've 1308 00:54:20,620 --> 00:54:19,850 always wanted to know oh that's a good 1309 00:54:23,650 --> 00:54:20,630 question 1310 00:54:25,270 --> 00:54:23,660 I believe here's my thought on this and 1311 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:25,280 I know they picked up on this because I 1312 00:54:29,350 --> 00:54:27,290 started talking about this years ago on 1313 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:29,360 my radio show I know these guys have 1314 00:54:36,910 --> 00:54:33,650 picked up on it is that I think that the 1315 00:54:39,340 --> 00:54:36,920 eyeball of the gray alien has to be in 1316 00:54:41,260 --> 00:54:39,350 contact with your eyeball because they 1317 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:41,270 send a frequency through your optical 1318 00:54:46,090 --> 00:54:44,450 nerve which triggers everything for 1319 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:46,100 their communication with you and their 1320 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:48,770 control over you well I love that yeah 1321 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:50,290 that's a great idea 1322 00:54:56,290 --> 00:54:54,050 yeah yeah when those guys come out with 1323 00:55:00,160 --> 00:54:56,300 it you can always tell them we knew that 1324 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:00,170 Laureen came up with that I mean even on 1325 00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:02,330 the flip side maybe they're contacted 1326 00:55:06,070 --> 00:55:04,880 way more than anybody right because they 1327 00:55:07,750 --> 00:55:06,080 can't see it and they know that they 1328 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:07,760 won't get scared so they may be talking 1329 00:55:12,620 --> 00:55:09,290 to these things all the time 1330 00:55:15,140 --> 00:55:12,630 I never even know it brides 1331 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:15,150 that's it yeah sitting at the bus stop 1332 00:55:18,890 --> 00:55:17,130 and having a conversation with a grave 1333 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:18,900 yeah really nobody's there and would 1334 00:55:22,910 --> 00:55:20,130 never know the different know the 1335 00:55:25,490 --> 00:55:22,920 difference that's nuts but I love the 1336 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:25,500 eye to eye contact thing that's that's 1337 00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:27,210 incredible yeah I think that's 1338 00:55:31,580 --> 00:55:29,250 absolutely real because you talk to any 1339 00:55:34,070 --> 00:55:31,590 contact be you know what they all say 1340 00:55:35,930 --> 00:55:34,080 view it stood by the side of my bed and 1341 00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:35,940 got real close to my face and looked at 1342 00:55:41,150 --> 00:55:38,910 me and then I went paralyzed or I did 1343 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:41,160 this all right whatever I've never heard 1344 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:43,170 when say well they turned their head and 1345 00:55:51,050 --> 00:55:44,010 they were looking the other direction 1346 00:55:52,490 --> 00:55:51,060 and I totally got paralyzed so you know 1347 00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:52,500 and like I said I've been doing this a 1348 00:55:58,490 --> 00:55:55,680 long long long time I'm like ancient now 1349 00:56:00,680 --> 00:55:58,500 so and I got interested in the subject 1350 00:56:03,230 --> 00:56:00,690 and I was between 16 and 18 with the 1351 00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:03,240 UFOs and I started the JFK stuff when I 1352 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:07,110 was like 13 to 16 so and I was a psychic 1353 00:56:11,750 --> 00:56:09,090 and a medium and a tarot card reader 1354 00:56:13,970 --> 00:56:11,760 during all that time to think so you 1355 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:13,980 know this is all like just all connected 1356 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:15,570 and that's the other part I wanted to 1357 00:56:19,700 --> 00:56:17,370 tell you guys I've had some amazing 1358 00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:19,710 downloads but most of the downloads they 1359 00:56:24,170 --> 00:56:22,110 give me are like visions of stuff that's 1360 00:56:26,750 --> 00:56:24,180 gonna happen or it hasn't happened or is 1361 00:56:28,850 --> 00:56:26,760 going to or I don't know what but what 1362 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:28,860 they're really doing to me is they're 1363 00:56:36,140 --> 00:56:32,570 fine tweaking my understanding of 1364 00:56:38,060 --> 00:56:36,150 spirituality in the long I look at it 1365 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:38,070 that way now at first I was like what 1366 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:39,690 are they doing you know they're sending 1367 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:42,690 me visions of spider webs with really 1368 00:56:47,390 --> 00:56:45,210 defined words written all over them and 1369 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:47,400 then at the end of the vision they'll 1370 00:56:51,500 --> 00:56:49,770 say it's all connected and I'm like oh 1371 00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:51,510 gee that well that was great you woke me 1372 00:57:01,580 --> 00:56:57,890 yeah but it's like they're they're 1373 00:57:03,740 --> 00:57:01,590 they're DNA sequencing my brain to 1374 00:57:06,110 --> 00:57:03,750 understand god that's the only way I can 1375 00:57:09,500 --> 00:57:06,120 describe it it's like so bizarre and 1376 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:09,510 they'll give you these amazing messages 1377 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:12,570 about the universe and God and reality 1378 00:57:18,050 --> 00:57:16,050 and you know everything and I get them 1379 00:57:19,610 --> 00:57:18,060 in visions and we're as allowed to 1380 00:57:21,530 --> 00:57:19,620 contact these I know we'll be on the 1381 00:57:24,100 --> 00:57:21,540 ships talking to them and they'll zap 1382 00:57:27,070 --> 00:57:24,110 them a vision like that you know yeah 1383 00:57:29,470 --> 00:57:27,080 interesting you know yeah it's pretty 1384 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:29,480 crazy and I gotta admit it's it's a 1385 00:57:34,060 --> 00:57:31,730 little disconcerting sometime because 1386 00:57:36,940 --> 00:57:34,070 you know I got a vision one day word 1387 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:36,950 they were they were showing me slapping 1388 00:57:41,410 --> 00:57:39,050 if they called it slapping on Joan of 1389 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:41,420 Arc's armor and I was like what the hell 1390 00:57:44,830 --> 00:57:43,250 are you guys doing and it was they're 1391 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:44,840 putting me on a horse they're putting 1392 00:57:49,540 --> 00:57:46,850 this all this armor on me and the armor 1393 00:57:51,550 --> 00:57:49,550 starts glowing and my hands are up in 1394 00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:51,560 the air like I'm reaching to God and 1395 00:57:54,910 --> 00:57:52,910 then they're like you've got 1396 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:54,920 tribulations in front of you it kind of 1397 00:57:59,800 --> 00:57:56,690 thought goes in my head and they're like 1398 00:58:01,840 --> 00:57:59,810 Don you're Joan Joan of Arc armor and 1399 00:58:08,500 --> 00:58:01,850 all will be well the kind of thing I'm 1400 00:58:11,500 --> 00:58:08,510 thinking I'm not Christian Joan of Arc 1401 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:11,510 of all things what could've been Bootsy 1402 00:58:23,290 --> 00:58:17,570 Collins would have me slapping a base 1403 00:58:25,330 --> 00:58:23,300 and I'd be Bootsy Collins that's what I 1404 00:58:27,010 --> 00:58:25,340 was thinking I was like come on white 1405 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:27,020 Joan of Arc but I got this amazing 1406 00:58:34,590 --> 00:58:30,610 answer back and it was that Joan 1407 00:58:38,310 --> 00:58:34,600 understood her place with God I was like 1408 00:58:42,010 --> 00:58:38,320 okay I get it now you know it's just 1409 00:58:43,810 --> 00:58:42,020 profound crazy visions and I'm like okay 1410 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:43,820 and I never know what it's gonna be 1411 00:58:48,370 --> 00:58:46,370 about you know one day is a spider's web 1412 00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:48,380 the next day it's time-traveled and it's 1413 00:58:54,130 --> 00:58:50,510 Joan of Arc and I like come on you guys 1414 00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:54,140 can't you be consistent like you like TV 1415 00:59:00,760 --> 00:58:56,000 series or something you know where I 1416 00:59:04,270 --> 00:59:00,770 have a conclusion no it's just an 1417 00:59:07,180 --> 00:59:04,280 ongoing puzzle yeah exactly 1418 00:59:09,310 --> 00:59:07,190 exactly but you know and I'm not saying 1419 00:59:11,170 --> 00:59:09,320 that this is a normal contact Dee thing 1420 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:11,180 I'm just saying this is my thing you 1421 00:59:15,730 --> 00:59:14,330 know i I've had so many bizarre things 1422 00:59:19,750 --> 00:59:15,740 happen I guess we could talk about that 1423 00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:19,760 now you know yeah hey yeah did you when 1424 00:59:23,860 --> 00:59:21,920 I say yeah go ahead did you want to take 1425 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:23,870 a small break really quick 1426 00:59:32,470 --> 00:59:30,530 it's okay cool perfect yeah so I told 1427 00:59:34,900 --> 00:59:32,480 you guys about the 18 month old almost 1428 00:59:38,190 --> 00:59:34,910 dying thing right and the next thing 1429 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:38,200 that get was really kind of different 1430 00:59:43,930 --> 00:59:41,930 let's see probably the time I told my 1431 00:59:47,410 --> 00:59:43,940 sisters I was gonna marry the Wolfman 1432 00:59:51,910 --> 00:59:47,420 right he told us that way yeah yes story 1433 00:59:56,460 --> 00:59:51,920 okay good and you ended up marrying a 1434 00:59:59,589 --> 00:59:56,470 guy who had the same name yeah yeah yeah 1435 01:00:02,349 --> 00:59:59,599 that was crazy and then I tell you guys 1436 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:02,359 about seeing my dead boyfriend yes you 1437 01:00:09,849 --> 01:00:03,650 told us about that one 1438 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:09,859 painter yes he was hard yeah it was 1439 01:00:13,269 --> 01:00:11,690 amazing yeah that story is interesting I 1440 01:00:15,609 --> 01:00:13,279 have to listen to my first interview 1441 01:00:16,900 --> 01:00:15,619 with you guys for that and then I told I 1442 01:00:18,489 --> 01:00:16,910 tell you guys about the troll doll in 1443 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:18,499 the car accident I think I told you that 1444 01:00:23,979 --> 01:00:21,410 one I don't think that one no that's a 1445 01:00:25,630 --> 01:00:23,989 new one oh that's a new one okay gather 1446 01:00:29,380 --> 01:00:25,640 so many what about the woman that came 1447 01:00:33,460 --> 01:00:29,390 through the walls no I mean I hear that 1448 01:00:35,559 --> 01:00:33,470 one too yeah well okay for about fifteen 1449 01:00:37,150 --> 01:00:35,569 or sixteen years old and we all skipped 1450 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:37,160 school and there a bunch of us in this 1451 01:00:42,519 --> 01:00:39,170 my boyfriend's station wagon an old 1452 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:42,529 Plymouth station wagon and we decided it 1453 01:00:47,859 --> 01:00:45,170 was my girlfriend and two guys and then 1454 01:00:49,479 --> 01:00:47,869 in the backseat and then me and my 1455 01:00:51,700 --> 01:00:49,489 boyfriend and another friend of ours 1456 01:00:53,890 --> 01:00:51,710 named Jim in the front seat so there's 1457 01:00:56,319 --> 01:00:53,900 two men on each side of the doors and 1458 01:00:58,210 --> 01:00:56,329 the two women in the middle okay just so 1459 01:01:00,519 --> 01:00:58,220 you guys get an idea of the setup yeah 1460 01:01:02,380 --> 01:01:00,529 and we're up in this we drove up to 1461 01:01:04,599 --> 01:01:02,390 Washington State from Portland Oregon 1462 01:01:06,099 --> 01:01:04,609 and you just cross over the river you go 1463 01:01:09,190 --> 01:01:06,109 up into Washington we went to Vancouver 1464 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:09,200 there's a park about 80 miles up the 1465 01:01:13,359 --> 01:01:11,930 river where there's these big waterfalls 1466 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:13,369 and we had cut school we were up there 1467 01:01:17,769 --> 01:01:15,650 we were you know doing things that we 1468 01:01:20,829 --> 01:01:17,779 did back then that included marijuana 1469 01:01:22,630 --> 01:01:20,839 and beer and you know whatever and we're 1470 01:01:24,279 --> 01:01:22,640 just having a great time and we get back 1471 01:01:27,579 --> 01:01:24,289 in the car about four o'clock in the 1472 01:01:29,589 --> 01:01:27,589 afternoon or five it was just getting to 1473 01:01:31,509 --> 01:01:29,599 be where the Sun was starting to go down 1474 01:01:36,700 --> 01:01:31,519 it was during the school year so it was 1475 01:01:40,150 --> 01:01:36,710 kind of spring I think and we get in the 1476 01:01:42,190 --> 01:01:40,160 car and my buddy Jim still has a joint 1477 01:01:44,650 --> 01:01:42,200 in his hand and it's down to the last 1478 01:01:47,380 --> 01:01:44,660 little bit and he takes a big puff on it 1479 01:01:49,509 --> 01:01:47,390 and he blows it on the troll doll that I 1480 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:49,519 had put on the car on the rear view 1481 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:50,850 mirror 1482 01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:55,650 be our protector of the farm right yeah 1483 01:01:59,870 --> 01:01:57,810 he was you know where we drove anywhere 1484 01:02:04,010 --> 01:01:59,880 I'd touch the troll doll and he'd keep 1485 01:02:06,250 --> 01:02:04,020 us all safe okay so you blew smoke on it 1486 01:02:09,490 --> 01:02:06,260 and I said you got my troll doll stone 1487 01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:09,500 [Laughter] 1488 01:02:14,270 --> 01:02:12,000 everybody put on your seatbelt and I was 1489 01:02:16,310 --> 01:02:14,280 and I was because I saw a vision the 1490 01:02:17,990 --> 01:02:16,320 minute he he blew the smoke on the doll 1491 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:18,000 I saw this vision of his getting a 1492 01:02:24,020 --> 01:02:22,290 horrible accident dad dad I said you got 1493 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:24,030 him stoned you got it all put on your 1494 01:02:29,540 --> 01:02:27,050 seatbelts now back when I got this is 1495 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:29,550 1971 or you know something like that 1496 01:02:40,310 --> 01:02:38,610 Golden Age we're like the seatbelts are 1497 01:02:42,350 --> 01:02:40,320 very different than they are now they're 1498 01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:42,360 you're lucky got one around your lap and 1499 01:02:47,180 --> 01:02:44,160 it was more like an airline seatbelt 1500 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:47,190 back then right so I made everybody put 1501 01:02:50,690 --> 01:02:48,810 on seatbelts and nobody wear seatbelts 1502 01:02:54,410 --> 01:02:50,700 back then I didn't care they were in the 1503 01:02:57,020 --> 01:02:54,420 car you didn't have to okay and so 1504 01:02:59,540 --> 01:02:57,030 everybody put him on begrudgingly they 1505 01:03:01,610 --> 01:02:59,550 were very angry with me about it and I 1506 01:03:03,770 --> 01:03:01,620 something was gonna happen and sure 1507 01:03:06,830 --> 01:03:03,780 enough we're going back down the hill 1508 01:03:10,010 --> 01:03:06,840 and we're going down this windy road 1509 01:03:13,940 --> 01:03:10,020 that parallels the river okay and 1510 01:03:17,110 --> 01:03:13,950 there's a very deep we're talking 250 1511 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:17,120 feet drop down to the river for miles 1512 01:03:24,110 --> 01:03:20,730 okay and there is just like a sheer 1513 01:03:28,550 --> 01:03:24,120 cliff on us right and my boyfriend the 1514 01:03:32,390 --> 01:03:28,560 stupid jerk that he was decided that he 1515 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:32,400 was past a car in this windy lane and he 1516 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:35,010 starts to pass the car and it's raining 1517 01:03:38,630 --> 01:03:36,690 a little bit out it's just kind of 1518 01:03:40,610 --> 01:03:38,640 sprinkling the roads getting slick and 1519 01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:40,620 another car starts coming and he has to 1520 01:03:47,060 --> 01:03:43,680 you know do and maneuver did not hit the 1521 01:03:52,490 --> 01:03:47,070 car and he spins the car out and we go 1522 01:03:55,070 --> 01:03:52,500 down over the cliff turns on its side 1523 01:03:57,740 --> 01:03:55,080 rolling down the cliff like four or five 1524 01:04:00,290 --> 01:03:57,750 times and if we hadn't had our seatbelts 1525 01:04:04,770 --> 01:04:00,300 on we've all been dead by the third roll 1526 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:04,780 oh he checked our you know no who knows 1527 01:04:13,020 --> 01:04:08,890 and here's the kicker on this about 55 1528 01:04:16,530 --> 01:04:13,030 or 60 feet no it was 160 feet yeah the 1529 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:16,540 the CHP told us later 150 hundred 60 1530 01:04:22,109 --> 01:04:20,050 feet there was a big old tree that's 1531 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:22,119 sticking out at the side of the hill and 1532 01:04:28,980 --> 01:04:27,010 it was the only tree for like 250 yards 1533 01:04:31,890 --> 01:04:28,990 one way and a quarter of a mile the 1534 01:04:34,650 --> 01:04:31,900 other direction it was the only one on 1535 01:04:36,900 --> 01:04:34,660 that whole hillside and it was he the 1536 01:04:39,390 --> 01:04:36,910 only thing big enough to hold the car 1537 01:04:43,620 --> 01:04:39,400 and the car rolls up against it and 1538 01:04:45,780 --> 01:04:43,630 stops these were teetering 1539 01:04:48,990 --> 01:04:45,790 and I'm like nobody move and nobody 1540 01:04:51,900 --> 01:04:49,000 moves and slowly figure out a way to 1541 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:51,910 crawl out the back window without having 1542 01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:54,130 the card fall down into the river 1543 01:04:59,210 --> 01:04:57,730 another 150 feet oh holy crap that's 1544 01:05:02,819 --> 01:04:59,220 intense 1545 01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:02,829 hauled up that hill and we all sat on 1546 01:05:06,630 --> 01:05:04,930 the edge and just looked at the car down 1547 01:05:08,819 --> 01:05:06,640 there parked on the tree and then the 1548 01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:08,829 cops froze up and it just got crazier 1549 01:05:13,380 --> 01:05:10,930 from there but I'm telling you guys I 1550 01:05:15,540 --> 01:05:13,390 had that vision when he blew that pot 1551 01:05:19,410 --> 01:05:15,550 smoke on the troll and I knew what was 1552 01:05:21,150 --> 01:05:19,420 gonna come holy crap so their yard I 1553 01:05:23,339 --> 01:05:21,160 saved all everybody's lives you know 1554 01:05:25,230 --> 01:05:23,349 yeah I do see it that way I just see 1555 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:25,240 this you know that's what I was supposed 1556 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:27,730 to do at the time right so so what 1557 01:05:35,190 --> 01:05:32,650 happened to the joint and all the pot in 1558 01:05:37,500 --> 01:05:35,200 the car and I thank God it's all guys 1559 01:05:40,470 --> 01:05:37,510 thank God it must have all fallen out 1560 01:05:41,790 --> 01:05:40,480 yeah hold the car kept with the tow 1561 01:05:44,250 --> 01:05:41,800 truck guy or whatever 1562 01:05:46,910 --> 01:05:44,260 we never got in trouble and nobody got 1563 01:05:49,170 --> 01:05:46,920 charged room that's good that's good 1564 01:05:50,550 --> 01:05:49,180 hey if there was any seeds in it you 1565 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:50,560 know maybe there's some pot girl in 1566 01:05:55,410 --> 01:05:52,770 there now 1567 01:05:57,420 --> 01:05:55,420 yeah a little offering to the god of the 1568 01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:57,430 tree that saved us that's right that's 1569 01:06:02,250 --> 01:05:58,210 right 1570 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:02,260 dang that's insane I know but seeing 1571 01:06:06,210 --> 01:06:04,450 that King from vision if I hadn't had 1572 01:06:07,980 --> 01:06:06,220 that vision when he blew the pot on the 1573 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:07,990 little troll doll man that would have 1574 01:06:16,349 --> 01:06:14,730 been it no other five people man so yeah 1575 01:06:17,590 --> 01:06:16,359 yes man 1576 01:06:20,590 --> 01:06:17,600 so these vision 1577 01:06:22,780 --> 01:06:20,600 I mean do they like I mean do you it 1578 01:06:25,870 --> 01:06:22,790 just happened so fast or do you have 1579 01:06:27,730 --> 01:06:25,880 like a second of like fraction of a 1580 01:06:29,500 --> 01:06:27,740 second I'll just see everything 1581 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:29,510 happening at once and it's like all I 1582 01:06:35,500 --> 01:06:32,330 saw in that was that we were having a 1583 01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:35,510 myth it was like I was rolling but I 1584 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:37,370 didn't realize it while it was you know 1585 01:06:41,830 --> 01:06:39,650 I saw the fusion what it was yeah it 1586 01:06:43,180 --> 01:06:41,840 happened because I didn't think it was 1587 01:06:45,190 --> 01:06:43,190 gonna happen now that we had our 1588 01:06:46,930 --> 01:06:45,200 seatbelts on I didn't think the accident 1589 01:06:51,490 --> 01:06:46,940 was gonna happen I thought I'd saved us 1590 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:51,500 already right yeah yeah so what happened 1591 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:53,690 the only thing I could think about going 1592 01:06:57,700 --> 01:06:55,570 over the edge of that cliff was like 1593 01:06:59,770 --> 01:06:57,710 everybody else told me later all I 1594 01:07:02,260 --> 01:06:59,780 thought I was gonna die you know they're 1595 01:07:09,970 --> 01:07:02,270 all freaking out I was thinking this 1596 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:09,980 isn't part of the vision I mean I 1597 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:11,330 thought about it later I thought should 1598 01:07:17,370 --> 01:07:13,130 I been afraid and I thought no because I 1599 01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:17,380 was confused I knew what was happening 1600 01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:21,650 it makes sense for a second in the 1601 01:07:27,190 --> 01:07:24,530 vision there was I I guess I was rollin 1602 01:07:29,860 --> 01:07:27,200 in the vision I just thought I was you 1603 01:07:31,090 --> 01:07:29,870 know just kind of Spacey in the vision I 1604 01:07:32,380 --> 01:07:31,100 didn't really quite figure out what was 1605 01:07:36,940 --> 01:07:32,390 going on till it happened 1606 01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:36,950 yeah so so there you go yeah it's funny 1607 01:07:41,140 --> 01:07:39,170 and then I think the thing that happened 1608 01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:41,150 after that that was significant was 1609 01:07:47,140 --> 01:07:44,450 shortly after that happened I 1610 01:07:48,550 --> 01:07:47,150 my sister was oh maybe I should talk 1611 01:07:51,610 --> 01:07:48,560 about this because his family private 1612 01:07:53,710 --> 01:07:51,620 stuff yeah bottom line was my sister was 1613 01:07:55,630 --> 01:07:53,720 running for some kind of I'm gonna say 1614 01:07:59,110 --> 01:07:55,640 office you know through the school 1615 01:08:01,960 --> 01:07:59,120 system and what-have-you and she came to 1616 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:01,970 me he goes am I gonna win and I and I 1617 01:08:05,410 --> 01:08:02,810 had a vision 1618 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:05,420 very quickly I you know here's what I 1619 01:08:09,910 --> 01:08:07,250 used to do you guys and I and this is a 1620 01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:09,920 trick that a lot of really good psychics 1621 01:08:14,110 --> 01:08:12,770 use they're having visions all the time 1622 01:08:15,730 --> 01:08:14,120 so instead of just standing there 1623 01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:15,740 telling people I'm having a vision in 1624 01:08:20,590 --> 01:08:18,170 blah blah blah they'll use tarot cards 1625 01:08:23,260 --> 01:08:20,600 or they're use numerology or they'll 1626 01:08:25,690 --> 01:08:23,270 find some other source to use as a 1627 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:25,700 grounding point for the person to focus 1628 01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:28,250 on instead of thinking oh my god they're 1629 01:08:30,939 --> 01:08:30,050 just having a vision is this real or not 1630 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:30,949 kind of thing 1631 01:08:35,589 --> 01:08:33,650 yeah whereas so I would I used to do is 1632 01:08:37,839 --> 01:08:35,599 I'd whip out my tarot cards even to my 1633 01:08:41,259 --> 01:08:37,849 family and lay them out and go you know 1634 01:08:43,899 --> 01:08:41,269 this is what's gonna happen and you know 1635 01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:43,909 if 50% of the time it would be through 1636 01:08:48,309 --> 01:08:45,650 the cards because the cards were pretty 1637 01:08:50,140 --> 01:08:48,319 accurate by themselves and then 50 1638 01:08:51,849 --> 01:08:50,150 percent of the time I get a vision with 1639 01:08:57,099 --> 01:08:51,859 the cards and then I know for sure I was 1640 01:08:58,989 --> 01:08:57,109 right Wow she can't me and said you know 1641 01:09:00,789 --> 01:08:58,999 my gonna blah blah blah and I just I had 1642 01:09:02,410 --> 01:09:00,799 an instantaneous vision and I knew 1643 01:09:04,509 --> 01:09:02,420 exactly was gonna happen but I whip out 1644 01:09:06,519 --> 01:09:04,519 the cards in he how and I tell her no 1645 01:09:08,649 --> 01:09:06,529 you're not gonna win and and this 1646 01:09:10,809 --> 01:09:08,659 person's gonna win and this is why and I 1647 01:09:13,029 --> 01:09:10,819 give her the whole nine yards and then 1648 01:09:14,620 --> 01:09:13,039 if she's really disappointed for a 1649 01:09:17,739 --> 01:09:14,630 couple days and then the whole thing 1650 01:09:20,799 --> 01:09:17,749 happens and she loses and she was so 1651 01:09:22,390 --> 01:09:20,809 happy on stage when she lost that my mom 1652 01:09:23,919 --> 01:09:22,400 and dad were concerned they went up to 1653 01:09:27,549 --> 01:09:23,929 her and said are you okay you know 1654 01:09:29,109 --> 01:09:27,559 you're acting really weird no I'm fine I 1655 01:09:34,059 --> 01:09:29,119 already knew I was gonna lose Laurie 1656 01:09:36,489 --> 01:09:34,069 told me I just ain't being up here I'm 1657 01:09:37,719 --> 01:09:36,499 having fun and they're like okay cuz you 1658 01:09:40,209 --> 01:09:37,729 know that was pretty normal in my 1659 01:09:44,499 --> 01:09:40,219 family's that I was kind of the spoiler 1660 01:09:46,180 --> 01:09:44,509 you know so she knows everything 1661 01:09:49,930 --> 01:09:46,190 telling the end of ending of movies and 1662 01:09:51,969 --> 01:09:49,940 stuff you know I'm not that good you 1663 01:09:56,339 --> 01:09:51,979 know it's interesting it kind of has to 1664 01:09:58,149 --> 01:09:56,349 be it has to be something of 1665 01:10:00,100 --> 01:09:58,159 significance or something that's gonna 1666 01:10:02,979 --> 01:10:00,110 change people's lives or something 1667 01:10:05,290 --> 01:10:02,989 that's gonna you know it could like if 1668 01:10:07,660 --> 01:10:05,300 you know the the road not taken' kind of 1669 01:10:10,029 --> 01:10:07,670 thing right it's like do this or 1670 01:10:12,790 --> 01:10:10,039 shouldn't I kind of whatever is it gonna 1671 01:10:14,799 --> 01:10:12,800 change my life completely it always has 1672 01:10:17,649 --> 01:10:14,809 to be that and you know that sad part is 1673 01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:17,659 for me usually has nothing to do with me 1674 01:10:24,390 --> 01:10:20,449 I don't get stuff from everybody else on 1675 01:10:26,830 --> 01:10:24,400 the frickin planet but do I get the help 1676 01:10:30,759 --> 01:10:26,840 well it's because you it's because you 1677 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:30,769 have the gift yeah yeah yes so Melinda I 1678 01:10:35,049 --> 01:10:33,050 really like commiserating about that too 1679 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:35,059 it's like we can spend our whole life 1680 01:10:39,790 --> 01:10:37,130 helping everybody else on the planet but 1681 01:10:40,910 --> 01:10:39,800 what we need something uh do they give 1682 01:10:44,030 --> 01:10:40,920 it to 1683 01:10:46,100 --> 01:10:44,040 oh man that's crazy what do that that 1684 01:10:48,230 --> 01:10:46,110 makes sense on why Lorien talked to us 1685 01:10:49,970 --> 01:10:48,240 cuz she knew we were cool before she 1686 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:49,980 even met her yeah that was what was the 1687 01:10:56,060 --> 01:10:53,970 deal right I did know I took one look at 1688 01:10:58,940 --> 01:10:56,070 you guys and I thought you know this is 1689 01:11:00,770 --> 01:10:58,950 where we're supposed to be going I just 1690 01:11:03,140 --> 01:11:00,780 had this gut feeling about you guys I'll 1691 01:11:06,290 --> 01:11:03,150 just knew you were you're the future of 1692 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:06,300 you apology cuz the I got and you guys 1693 01:11:12,590 --> 01:11:09,810 know this real well is that I cannot 1694 01:11:16,670 --> 01:11:12,600 abide by these guys out there now that 1695 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:16,680 think they're UFO podcasters or then 1696 01:11:22,300 --> 01:11:18,050 they're actually calling themselves 1697 01:11:24,890 --> 01:11:22,310 journalists and making me lose my mind 1698 01:11:27,230 --> 01:11:24,900 ufology and they don't know the history 1699 01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:27,240 of it they don't know anything about it 1700 01:11:32,030 --> 01:11:30,000 they've never talked to a contact D they 1701 01:11:33,860 --> 01:11:32,040 may have talked to three people that are 1702 01:11:40,780 --> 01:11:33,870 scientists in the community and now they 1703 01:11:43,310 --> 01:11:40,790 think they're experts right experts I 1704 01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:43,320 turn around and feel like I'm living in 1705 01:11:47,870 --> 01:11:45,840 a Fellini movie because you've got all 1706 01:11:50,330 --> 01:11:47,880 these people around me that don't know 1707 01:11:52,700 --> 01:11:50,340 anything calling themselves experts and 1708 01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:52,710 I'm like okay how did this happen yeah 1709 01:11:56,900 --> 01:11:54,690 and I know how it's happened it's 1710 01:11:58,340 --> 01:11:56,910 because the guys that are running the 1711 01:12:00,020 --> 01:11:58,350 show that I was telling you guys all 1712 01:12:02,390 --> 01:12:00,030 about earlier have controlled the 1713 01:12:04,460 --> 01:12:02,400 narrative for so long that they have 1714 01:12:06,350 --> 01:12:04,470 people brainwashed into thinking they 1715 01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:06,360 actually understand what's happening 1716 01:12:13,970 --> 01:12:12,000 yeah yeah yeah we had Ryan Sprague on 1717 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:13,980 and he had a pretty cool saying like if 1718 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:16,050 somebody claims to know what's going on 1719 01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:18,090 they have no [\h__\h] clue what's going 1720 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:23,520 on right and I don't know what's going 1721 01:12:28,430 --> 01:12:25,050 on either and I'll be the first to tell 1722 01:12:30,440 --> 01:12:28,440 anybody because I've been in I've been 1723 01:12:34,130 --> 01:12:30,450 living this my whole life and I'm still 1724 01:12:36,020 --> 01:12:34,140 confused yeah you know I I think I'm 1725 01:12:37,790 --> 01:12:36,030 coming up with some good answers here 1726 01:12:39,590 --> 01:12:37,800 every once in a while but then you know 1727 01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:39,600 like I said the whole thing about is 1728 01:12:42,530 --> 01:12:41,610 there a blind contact you guys made a 1729 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:42,540 very good point 1730 01:12:48,230 --> 01:12:44,970 what if there's time and I just don't 1731 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:48,240 know it you know and you know there's a 1732 01:12:54,330 --> 01:12:50,370 lot of interesting things going on 1733 01:12:56,279 --> 01:12:54,340 within the community as far as 1734 01:12:58,950 --> 01:12:56,289 people who are actually coming up with 1735 01:13:01,350 --> 01:12:58,960 answers but they're being ignored 1736 01:13:02,729 --> 01:13:01,360 because they're the contactees usually 1737 01:13:07,140 --> 01:13:02,739 that are coming up with the answers 1738 01:13:09,629 --> 01:13:07,150 right right sad to me that's really sad 1739 01:13:12,299 --> 01:13:09,639 the people you know the part that really 1740 01:13:14,129 --> 01:13:12,309 got me to the point where I am now where 1741 01:13:17,189 --> 01:13:14,139 I won't keep my mouth shut about stuff 1742 01:13:20,459 --> 01:13:17,199 is this I'm at a conference it's about 1743 01:13:23,969 --> 01:13:20,469 ten years ago there's a guy on stage he 1744 01:13:25,529 --> 01:13:23,979 is talking about UFOs and he gets off 1745 01:13:27,870 --> 01:13:25,539 the stage and I didn't know him from 1746 01:13:30,180 --> 01:13:27,880 Adam then and I walked up to him and I 1747 01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:30,190 said hey how many UFOs have you seen he 1748 01:13:34,379 --> 01:13:32,530 goes oh none I go well you gotta be 1749 01:13:36,149 --> 01:13:34,389 contactee then right you you know you 1750 01:13:38,430 --> 01:13:36,159 you know about aliens right and he goes 1751 01:13:41,219 --> 01:13:38,440 nope never seen one never heard one know 1752 01:13:42,899 --> 01:13:41,229 nothing about him I goes you wrote a 1753 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:42,909 book about it he goes yeah it's a 1754 01:13:47,850 --> 01:13:45,610 fascinating subject I go well that's 1755 01:13:50,219 --> 01:13:47,860 great and I walk away and I realize 1756 01:13:53,009 --> 01:13:50,229 these are the people that get on our 1757 01:13:54,899 --> 01:13:53,019 stages they've got PhDs or this they're 1758 01:13:56,609 --> 01:13:54,909 that they've never seen a UFO they've 1759 01:13:58,410 --> 01:13:56,619 never had contact and they're the ones 1760 01:14:00,600 --> 01:13:58,420 that are getting all the accolades right 1761 01:14:02,279 --> 01:14:00,610 I'm like there's something wrong with 1762 01:14:04,140 --> 01:14:02,289 this picture and that's when I really 1763 01:14:06,299 --> 01:14:04,150 I'd already been following the guys in 1764 01:14:07,830 --> 01:14:06,309 the CIA and all this stuff in military 1765 01:14:10,739 --> 01:14:07,840 and kind of trying to figure out what 1766 01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:10,749 their role was in this I walked away 1767 01:14:15,719 --> 01:14:13,090 from that experience with the Epiphany 1768 01:14:17,759 --> 01:14:15,729 this is their role in this is what 1769 01:14:20,370 --> 01:14:17,769 they've created for us they're putting 1770 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:20,380 people on the stage that know nothing 1771 01:14:25,950 --> 01:14:23,050 about this and they're the experts now 1772 01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:25,960 so this is what we get and loud it to 1773 01:14:30,450 --> 01:14:28,210 happen to us that was the other part I 1774 01:14:33,660 --> 01:14:30,460 can't boy with it from there too was we 1775 01:14:35,189 --> 01:14:33,670 allowed this to happen right I think 1776 01:14:37,229 --> 01:14:35,199 it's I think it's interesting I mean 1777 01:14:38,700 --> 01:14:37,239 like you take like Richard Dolan Richard 1778 01:14:40,709 --> 01:14:38,710 Owen for example I mean he's a great 1779 01:14:42,870 --> 01:14:40,719 researcher and you know couldn't put 1780 01:14:44,759 --> 01:14:42,880 things together in a book but I don't 1781 01:14:46,799 --> 01:14:44,769 think he's claimed to have had any 1782 01:14:49,020 --> 01:14:46,809 experiences but I'm glad to have him in 1783 01:14:50,219 --> 01:14:49,030 the you know up there talking and you 1784 01:14:51,660 --> 01:14:50,229 know reading his books and stuff like 1785 01:14:53,609 --> 01:14:51,670 it's really interesting stuff because 1786 01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:53,619 he's like more of a historian and you 1787 01:14:58,439 --> 01:14:55,570 know you still need those those kind of 1788 01:15:01,529 --> 01:14:58,449 kinds of people but I definitely get 1789 01:15:03,419 --> 01:15:01,539 what you mean like your safe choice yeah 1790 01:15:06,689 --> 01:15:03,429 that's all Richard he's a safe choice 1791 01:15:07,930 --> 01:15:06,699 right right doesn't know anything about 1792 01:15:10,330 --> 01:15:07,940 the community 1793 01:15:13,570 --> 01:15:10,340 yeah and we still gotta have them up 1794 01:15:15,459 --> 01:15:13,580 there but I think the tide is changing 1795 01:15:18,610 --> 01:15:15,469 and I'll tell you why because people 1796 01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:18,620 like Richard now that the genies out of 1797 01:15:23,650 --> 01:15:21,890 the bottle with the the CIA guys and the 1798 01:15:25,930 --> 01:15:23,660 military guys and they're saying yeah 1799 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:25,940 they're real okay now that the genie is 1800 01:15:30,459 --> 01:15:28,250 out of the bottle the people are gonna 1801 01:15:32,530 --> 01:15:30,469 start asking harder questions then are 1802 01:15:34,060 --> 01:15:32,540 they real and what would happen if they 1803 01:15:35,530 --> 01:15:34,070 showed up because that's what Richard is 1804 01:15:38,430 --> 01:15:35,540 famous for is that are they real and 1805 01:15:42,010 --> 01:15:38,440 what we do if they showed up right yeah 1806 01:15:44,350 --> 01:15:42,020 that's not nearly as relevant anymore so 1807 01:15:46,780 --> 01:15:44,360 what's really gonna become relevant in 1808 01:15:48,310 --> 01:15:46,790 five to ten years is how are we 1809 01:15:51,729 --> 01:15:48,320 communicating with them and who's 1810 01:15:54,250 --> 01:15:51,739 communicating with them no dad are gonna 1811 01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:54,260 become obsolete sorry Richard but you 1812 01:15:58,420 --> 01:15:56,810 know that's really the case here because 1813 01:16:00,370 --> 01:15:58,430 they served their purpose they did their 1814 01:16:02,979 --> 01:16:00,380 time you know he had 20 years on stage 1815 01:16:05,470 --> 01:16:02,989 that's great and you know but now we're 1816 01:16:06,790 --> 01:16:05,480 gonna be moving on to you know what are 1817 01:16:08,950 --> 01:16:06,800 they doing here and why are they talking 1818 01:16:12,910 --> 01:16:08,960 to me you know that's really important 1819 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:12,920 so yeah yeah yeah and that's why I'm so 1820 01:16:16,300 --> 01:16:15,410 excited about UFO Khan because you know 1821 01:16:18,670 --> 01:16:16,310 like we've been saying this whole 1822 01:16:20,620 --> 01:16:18,680 podcast but like hearing it from the the 1823 01:16:22,689 --> 01:16:20,630 mouth mouths of the people that are 1824 01:16:25,660 --> 01:16:22,699 experiencing this this stuff and and 1825 01:16:27,310 --> 01:16:25,670 finding those those commonalities 1826 01:16:29,979 --> 01:16:27,320 between some of the stories has been 1827 01:16:32,950 --> 01:16:29,989 really really fun just like listen yeah 1828 01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:32,960 that's and that's exactly what I'm 1829 01:16:36,459 --> 01:16:34,610 hoping for at the conference it's not 1830 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:36,469 just that people come and they go oh 1831 01:16:40,150 --> 01:16:38,210 yeah that person was a great presenter 1832 01:16:42,250 --> 01:16:40,160 or this or that or whatever or here they 1833 01:16:44,709 --> 01:16:42,260 have an interesting story or you know 1834 01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:44,719 this what I'm hoping they'll do is start 1835 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:46,370 putting the you know the dots together 1836 01:16:50,890 --> 01:16:48,530 and drawing the lines and saying ah 1837 01:16:52,630 --> 01:16:50,900 Chris Bledsoe had this happen 1838 01:16:55,510 --> 01:16:52,640 oh that's interesting so did Eric 1839 01:16:58,510 --> 01:16:55,520 Mitchell oh wow okay yeah 1840 01:17:00,910 --> 01:16:58,520 you know Terry Lovelace had something 1841 01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:00,920 else happened that was relevant to their 1842 01:17:04,780 --> 01:17:03,410 case oh now that's interesting or you 1843 01:17:06,850 --> 01:17:04,790 know they'll start putting things 1844 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:06,860 together they realized that it's all 1845 01:17:11,050 --> 01:17:09,170 connected and especially the contact 1846 01:17:14,260 --> 01:17:11,060 these they're all connected and in a 1847 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:14,270 very like you spiritually cosmic reality 1848 01:17:19,300 --> 01:17:17,570 that that really means something and 1849 01:17:21,370 --> 01:17:19,310 that we are going to be changing the 1850 01:17:23,530 --> 01:17:21,380 world in the future 1851 01:17:26,170 --> 01:17:23,540 either contact these that are doing it 1852 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:26,180 yeah you know we have we had an 1853 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:29,290 interesting thing kind of happened to us 1854 01:17:36,250 --> 01:17:32,930 talking about UFO Khan coming up we had 1855 01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:36,260 done an episode on something that we 1856 01:17:40,930 --> 01:17:37,970 hadn't really heard too much about but 1857 01:17:43,930 --> 01:17:40,940 we kind of dove into it was the Mantid 1858 01:17:47,440 --> 01:17:43,940 beings right and we did this episode and 1859 01:17:50,650 --> 01:17:47,450 then not even a day later you ride up on 1860 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:50,660 your own UFO Khan about how all like a 1861 01:17:56,620 --> 01:17:54,410 lot of these experiences have contact 1862 01:17:58,780 --> 01:17:56,630 with the Mantid beings and then and then 1863 01:18:00,580 --> 01:17:58,790 I know and then out of nowhere I'm at 1864 01:18:03,490 --> 01:18:00,590 work the next day and I'm driving on a 1865 01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:03,500 bobcat and this Mantis comes and flies 1866 01:18:07,660 --> 01:18:05,690 in and just kind of hangs out like on 1867 01:18:09,550 --> 01:18:07,670 the side great of the machine that I'm 1868 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:09,560 working and I'm like this is way too 1869 01:18:14,440 --> 01:18:12,410 weird because you know I just I never 1870 01:18:16,330 --> 01:18:14,450 see like a praying mantis anywhere and 1871 01:18:19,180 --> 01:18:16,340 it was just so weird how back-to-back 1872 01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:19,190 like the Mantis just showed up like it 1873 01:18:26,380 --> 01:18:24,410 was in our face for a while yeah so I 1874 01:18:28,690 --> 01:18:26,390 love those Mantis because that was he 1875 01:18:31,750 --> 01:18:28,700 the big guy was he like two or three 1876 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:31,760 inches long yeah yeah I mean he was a he 1877 01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:33,890 was a he was pretty sizable you know 1878 01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:35,570 enough for me to like take notice and be 1879 01:18:39,730 --> 01:18:37,970 like whoa oh please don't fly on my face 1880 01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:39,740 but then like I was like that's so 1881 01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:42,290 strange cuz we just did this episode and 1882 01:18:46,660 --> 01:18:44,930 like then you wrote this article and 1883 01:18:48,790 --> 01:18:46,670 then and then I started looking into 1884 01:18:50,710 --> 01:18:48,800 Robert fooling Tanana there's just all 1885 01:18:53,110 --> 01:18:50,720 this Mantis stuff going on and it was 1886 01:18:55,480 --> 01:18:53,120 crazy how I just like all that wants 1887 01:18:58,570 --> 01:18:55,490 like became a thing it was pretty 1888 01:19:00,730 --> 01:18:58,580 strange it is strange and I think it's 1889 01:19:02,740 --> 01:19:00,740 gonna be a theme for us definitely at 1890 01:19:05,410 --> 01:19:02,750 the conference because I didn't realize 1891 01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:05,420 when I booked all these people I knew 1892 01:19:09,460 --> 01:19:07,610 they had all had contact and I knew the 1893 01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:09,470 Grays were involved with most of them 1894 01:19:15,550 --> 01:19:11,810 I didn't know that three or four of them 1895 01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:15,560 were having major mantas being contact I 1896 01:19:19,450 --> 01:19:16,970 didn't know that when I booked them all 1897 01:19:21,370 --> 01:19:19,460 yeah they called they go oh yeah I 1898 01:19:23,740 --> 01:19:21,380 should I talk about the Mantis beans I 1899 01:19:25,930 --> 01:19:23,750 go well are they a major part of your 1900 01:19:27,460 --> 01:19:25,940 you know your evolvement with them they 1901 01:19:30,100 --> 01:19:27,470 go yeah they're the major involvement 1902 01:19:32,650 --> 01:19:30,110 I'm like really you know in the team and 1903 01:19:34,570 --> 01:19:32,660 one of the girls that's never spoken 1904 01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:34,580 before about any of her stuff and I 1905 01:19:36,940 --> 01:19:35,210 don't know how 1906 01:19:38,860 --> 01:19:36,950 well her you know I gotta say I don't 1907 01:19:40,660 --> 01:19:38,870 know how well her presentations gonna be 1908 01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:40,670 she's not a professional speaker but 1909 01:19:46,060 --> 01:19:43,250 she's very good speaker 1910 01:19:47,740 --> 01:19:46,070 she can't build PowerPoint and I'm kind 1911 01:19:51,010 --> 01:19:47,750 of worried about that but I think it's 1912 01:19:53,020 --> 01:19:51,020 gonna be okay because her stories are 1913 01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:53,030 phenomenal I think people will just sit 1914 01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:55,250 there listen I think they'll be happy 1915 01:20:02,620 --> 01:19:57,650 with that but she's had mantas being 1916 01:20:05,470 --> 01:20:02,630 contact her entire life she has the 1917 01:20:09,550 --> 01:20:05,480 minute she said to me Lorien I will do 1918 01:20:11,830 --> 01:20:09,560 your event she said three more mantas 1919 01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:11,840 appear around her now that she never 1920 01:20:17,229 --> 01:20:14,930 seen before and what was really strange 1921 01:20:19,300 --> 01:20:17,239 is after she said she would speak at my 1922 01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:19,310 event all of her mantis beans that have 1923 01:20:26,650 --> 01:20:22,130 surround her constantly have started 1924 01:20:28,510 --> 01:20:26,660 morphine in colors I asked her what the 1925 01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:28,520 heck does that mean she goes I don't 1926 01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:31,250 have the foggiest idea but they're 1927 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:33,290 telling me I'm supposed to speak at your 1928 01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:35,090 conference and they're really excited 1929 01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:37,130 about it and every time they get all 1930 01:20:41,170 --> 01:20:39,170 excited about me talking to your 1931 01:20:46,330 --> 01:20:41,180 conference they start changing colors in 1932 01:20:48,070 --> 01:20:46,340 front of me not so interesting then be 1933 01:20:51,910 --> 01:20:48,080 like you know it's like she says this 1934 01:20:54,310 --> 01:20:51,920 like that old psychedelic oil spots of 1935 01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:54,320 these to have back at the fillmore I'm 1936 01:21:00,310 --> 01:20:56,090 like oh yeah she goes yeah it looks just 1937 01:21:03,970 --> 01:21:00,320 like so cool you bring that up because 1938 01:21:06,459 --> 01:21:03,980 that sounds like what David Adair 1939 01:21:10,390 --> 01:21:06,469 described when he touched the power 1940 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:10,400 plant at area 51 from the spaceship and 1941 01:21:15,220 --> 01:21:13,010 it felt like the belly of a frog but it 1942 01:21:17,950 --> 01:21:15,230 would start changing colors according to 1943 01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:17,960 his emotions huh and I said think that 1944 01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:19,610 they're happy and that's one of the 1945 01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:21,530 reasons they're changing colors she goes 1946 01:21:25,420 --> 01:21:23,690 oh my god that makes total sense because 1947 01:21:29,440 --> 01:21:25,430 they are they're all happy I'm doing 1948 01:21:31,870 --> 01:21:29,450 this that's cool no I was like oh my god 1949 01:21:34,330 --> 01:21:31,880 so this is how mantis may show color I 1950 01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:34,340 mean show emotion to us yes through 1951 01:21:39,010 --> 01:21:37,370 color right I thought all the things 1952 01:21:44,260 --> 01:21:39,020 they have to figure out today that was 1953 01:21:46,150 --> 01:21:44,270 the weirdest I mean who knows maybe 1954 01:21:48,790 --> 01:21:46,160 we're both crazy maybe there are no 1955 01:21:51,399 --> 01:21:48,800 mantas maybe the coloration doesn't mean 1956 01:21:54,100 --> 01:21:51,409 thing but she said she never seen them 1957 01:21:56,589 --> 01:21:54,110 do that before and they sent her two or 1958 01:21:58,839 --> 01:21:56,599 three more beans to be with her to 1959 01:22:00,430 --> 01:21:58,849 prepare for the conference Wow you know 1960 01:22:04,089 --> 01:22:00,440 they say used to have like this this 1961 01:22:06,100 --> 01:22:04,099 this this sense of humor about them like 1962 01:22:08,229 --> 01:22:06,110 all the stuff that like all the people 1963 01:22:10,870 --> 01:22:08,239 have listened to talk about it and you 1964 01:22:12,700 --> 01:22:10,880 know like just with the color I mean 1965 01:22:15,819 --> 01:22:12,710 that's new and that's really interesting 1966 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:15,829 and how you know they would change color 1967 01:22:19,810 --> 01:22:17,690 you know just the everything from them 1968 01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:19,820 like they don't want to scare you so 1969 01:22:27,669 --> 01:22:22,250 they like will sometimes put on wigs and 1970 01:22:30,010 --> 01:22:27,679 like hats and stuff crazy yeah like 1971 01:22:31,569 --> 01:22:30,020 rubber lips and then they look at you 1972 01:22:33,580 --> 01:22:31,579 which me a bitter like that would almost 1973 01:22:35,979 --> 01:22:33,590 scare the [\h__\h] out of me even more but I 1974 01:22:38,290 --> 01:22:35,989 mean I see why that's hilarious like I 1975 01:22:42,060 --> 01:22:38,300 don't know and it it seems like they 1976 01:22:45,069 --> 01:22:42,070 really take your your your emotions into 1977 01:22:47,319 --> 01:22:45,079 you know into account into account when 1978 01:22:50,169 --> 01:22:47,329 they when they contact with you you know 1979 01:22:51,609 --> 01:22:50,179 well that's the mantids though they seem 1980 01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:51,619 to do that and I think you guys are 1981 01:22:57,330 --> 01:22:53,449 absolutely onto something whereas the 1982 01:23:00,370 --> 01:22:57,340 Grays in my opinion are probably cloned 1983 01:23:02,470 --> 01:23:00,380 you know entities that working on 1984 01:23:04,990 --> 01:23:02,480 somebody's behalf whether it's theirs or 1985 01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:05,000 not I don't know and they just seem more 1986 01:23:09,549 --> 01:23:07,130 you know robotic and they're not 1987 01:23:12,220 --> 01:23:09,559 emotional and they're just not quite the 1988 01:23:14,109 --> 01:23:12,230 same now I don't mean that for all grace 1989 01:23:15,970 --> 01:23:14,119 as I'll tell you guys something I know 1990 01:23:17,709 --> 01:23:15,980 there's a hierarchy within the great 1991 01:23:19,689 --> 01:23:17,719 community too and you guys probably know 1992 01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:19,699 that as well and some of the taller 1993 01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:22,489 greys that are four or five feet tall 1994 01:23:29,890 --> 01:23:26,210 seem to be very human not like and seem 1995 01:23:31,450 --> 01:23:29,900 to have emotions yeah and there's a lot 1996 01:23:33,459 --> 01:23:31,460 of interesting things going on with the 1997 01:23:36,339 --> 01:23:33,469 greys on many levels and there's many 1998 01:23:37,750 --> 01:23:36,349 species of the great stew that I've been 1999 01:23:39,729 --> 01:23:37,760 able to figure out along with all my 2000 01:23:42,010 --> 01:23:39,739 friends is like you know I saw one with 2001 01:23:44,530 --> 01:23:42,020 round eyes I saw one with almond eyes I 2002 01:23:47,950 --> 01:23:44,540 saw one with big you know brown almond 2003 01:23:49,810 --> 01:23:47,960 eyes I'm like okay oh and now I got skin 2004 01:23:54,129 --> 01:23:49,820 colors I got from pasty white all the 2005 01:23:56,020 --> 01:23:54,139 way to almost black yeah how do you say 2006 01:24:00,129 --> 01:23:56,030 those are all one species I don't think 2007 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:00,139 we can yeah oh they all act so different 2008 01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:01,610 one of them is very loving and caring 2009 01:24:03,830 --> 01:24:02,370 the next 2010 01:24:07,430 --> 01:24:03,840 doesn't even care if you're in the room 2011 01:24:08,750 --> 01:24:07,440 right alright tell me yeah so I heard 2012 01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:08,760 something tell me if you've ever heard 2013 01:24:15,170 --> 01:24:10,770 anything like this I'm sure you have but 2014 01:24:17,510 --> 01:24:15,180 so I heard I heard a theory on this lady 2015 01:24:20,420 --> 01:24:17,520 she was talking about you know the Zetas 2016 01:24:23,270 --> 01:24:20,430 and why they contact us and you know how 2017 01:24:26,990 --> 01:24:23,280 they are kind of a more cold more 2018 01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:27,000 calculated you know very scientifically 2019 01:24:32,450 --> 01:24:29,730 advanced and this and that at some point 2020 01:24:35,540 --> 01:24:32,460 along along the evolution of their 2021 01:24:38,990 --> 01:24:35,550 species they became so advanced that 2022 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:39,000 they almost became mechanical and with 2023 01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:42,930 us humans we have that that spiritual 2024 01:24:45,530 --> 01:24:44,250 connection you know you were talking 2025 01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:45,540 about you know they kind of show you 2026 01:24:50,420 --> 01:24:47,850 this spiritual guidance right and you're 2027 01:24:52,580 --> 01:24:50,430 kind of you're kind of you know your 2028 01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:52,590 consciousness is kind of ascending in a 2029 01:24:58,400 --> 01:24:55,290 way well they've gotten so technically 2030 01:25:01,040 --> 01:24:58,410 advanced that they can no longer evolve 2031 01:25:04,550 --> 01:25:01,050 to that state so the reason that they're 2032 01:25:07,550 --> 01:25:04,560 taking DNA and harvesting and doing the 2033 01:25:09,190 --> 01:25:07,560 the hybrid program could possibly be 2034 01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:09,200 because they're trying to maybe 2035 01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:11,610 de-evolve themselves a little bit back 2036 01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:14,610 more into a human state to where they 2037 01:25:19,490 --> 01:25:17,370 can consciously evolve to that next step 2038 01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:19,500 that they're not able to attain at this 2039 01:25:24,980 --> 01:25:21,330 point because they went too far 2040 01:25:27,860 --> 01:25:24,990 technologically I went doubt that at all 2041 01:25:30,230 --> 01:25:27,870 and the reason I believe that might be 2042 01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:30,240 the case who was the woman that you talk 2043 01:25:34,940 --> 01:25:32,490 to about that it's so there's just this 2044 01:25:40,010 --> 01:25:34,950 lay this lady I watch uh her name is 2045 01:25:42,410 --> 01:25:40,020 Gigi young and she yeah yeah and she you 2046 01:25:44,870 --> 01:25:42,420 know she claims to be an empath and you 2047 01:25:46,940 --> 01:25:44,880 know and stuff like that as well but i 2048 01:25:49,670 --> 01:25:46,950 watch her channel and i you know i 2049 01:25:51,890 --> 01:25:49,680 really enjoy what she says and you know 2050 01:25:53,630 --> 01:25:51,900 I kind of try to cross-check it here and 2051 01:25:55,340 --> 01:25:53,640 there whenever I can but you know some 2052 01:25:56,780 --> 01:25:55,350 of this stuff I mean yeah it's hard to 2053 01:25:59,660 --> 01:25:56,790 cross-check because nobody else is 2054 01:26:02,750 --> 01:25:59,670 talking about it so you know but that's 2055 01:26:04,370 --> 01:26:02,760 that is the problem and and and we all 2056 01:26:06,110 --> 01:26:04,380 have different theories but I will say 2057 01:26:08,810 --> 01:26:06,120 that Gigi's on to something because 2058 01:26:11,660 --> 01:26:08,820 whether they're us from the future or 2059 01:26:14,169 --> 01:26:11,670 they are a separate species from another 2060 01:26:16,719 --> 01:26:14,179 part of the galaxy or whatever 2061 01:26:17,979 --> 01:26:16,729 I do believe that they have gone too far 2062 01:26:20,199 --> 01:26:17,989 I think they may have destroyed 2063 01:26:24,579 --> 01:26:20,209 themselves two or three times over you 2064 01:26:27,790 --> 01:26:24,589 know and I do think that they have said 2065 01:26:30,459 --> 01:26:27,800 to my friends over many years of asking 2066 01:26:34,029 --> 01:26:30,469 my friends this do they believe in a god 2067 01:26:36,399 --> 01:26:34,039 and the truth is they do it's the same 2068 01:26:39,909 --> 01:26:36,409 God we have but they said it's more it's 2069 01:26:41,799 --> 01:26:39,919 so much more than that right yes the 2070 01:26:43,989 --> 01:26:41,809 consciousness of the universe they 2071 01:26:47,229 --> 01:26:43,999 enters see they understand it because 2072 01:26:49,119 --> 01:26:47,239 they can tap into it we can't because 2073 01:26:51,399 --> 01:26:49,129 our problem of tapping into every time 2074 01:26:52,899 --> 01:26:51,409 I've tapped into it I'm not in my body 2075 01:26:55,449 --> 01:26:52,909 anymore right 2076 01:26:59,109 --> 01:26:55,459 my body's here but I don't feel it I'm 2077 01:27:01,779 --> 01:26:59,119 not part of it it's like I'm gone often 2078 01:27:03,939 --> 01:27:01,789 to that other expanded consciousness of 2079 01:27:06,279 --> 01:27:03,949 God and I'm not here anymore I'm not 2080 01:27:08,079 --> 01:27:06,289 human anymore for that fraction of a 2081 01:27:11,290 --> 01:27:08,089 second my body's still functioning but 2082 01:27:13,929 --> 01:27:11,300 I'm not here you know right yeah yeah I 2083 01:27:16,299 --> 01:27:13,939 mean I was taken I've never really 2084 01:27:19,810 --> 01:27:16,309 talked about this on air before but when 2085 01:27:21,669 --> 01:27:19,820 I was about 14 years old I did some 2086 01:27:25,929 --> 01:27:21,679 great drugs I don't remember what it was 2087 01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:25,939 nice oh yeah I was concert ramírez 15 I 2088 01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:27,530 don't know something like that was a I 2089 01:27:31,599 --> 01:27:29,449 was a young freshman because my birthday 2090 01:27:34,209 --> 01:27:31,609 is the end of August and the cutoff date 2091 01:27:37,239 --> 01:27:34,219 to get into school through that year is 2092 01:27:39,459 --> 01:27:37,249 like September 3rd so I'm like I'm the 2093 01:27:42,399 --> 01:27:39,469 probably the youngest people in any 2094 01:27:45,159 --> 01:27:42,409 class that I was ever in okay so I'm 2095 01:27:48,129 --> 01:27:45,169 like 15 when everybody else is 16 and 17 2096 01:27:50,109 --> 01:27:48,139 in my class right yeah so I was always 2097 01:27:51,969 --> 01:27:50,119 doing things before everybody else so 2098 01:27:57,129 --> 01:27:51,979 anyhow that's why I was doing drugs at 2099 01:27:59,319 --> 01:27:57,139 such a young age for drugs 2100 01:28:00,639 --> 01:27:59,329 I was hanging out with 16 and 17 year 2101 01:28:02,739 --> 01:28:00,649 olds because they were all in my class 2102 01:28:05,290 --> 01:28:02,749 with me and I'm doing but they're doing 2103 01:28:06,639 --> 01:28:05,300 okay yeah so there you go but yeah we've 2104 01:28:08,589 --> 01:28:06,649 done something I think we did peyote 2105 01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:08,599 that night I don't remember but we had 2106 01:28:15,669 --> 01:28:13,489 vice I don't know it yeah I was coming 2107 01:28:17,739 --> 01:28:15,679 off of the hi and I was fine and I'm 2108 01:28:20,409 --> 01:28:17,749 sitting there and I I went into our 2109 01:28:23,529 --> 01:28:20,419 family room at my parents house and I'm 2110 01:28:25,449 --> 01:28:23,539 putting together a puzzle and everybody 2111 01:28:27,370 --> 01:28:25,459 you know we in the old days we used to 2112 01:28:28,660 --> 01:28:27,380 put a puzzle out on the table 2113 01:28:31,060 --> 01:28:28,670 and when you had nothing to do you go 2114 01:28:33,460 --> 01:28:31,070 downstairs and put pieces of the puzzle 2115 01:28:36,910 --> 01:28:33,470 together okay yeah that's how fam 2116 01:28:39,630 --> 01:28:36,920 families used to communicate that we 2117 01:28:42,070 --> 01:28:39,640 still do that at my mom's house yeah 2118 01:28:43,420 --> 01:28:42,080 it's like sometimes there'd be two or 2119 01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:43,430 three of you sitting there yakking about 2120 01:28:47,500 --> 01:28:45,290 something doing it and then the other 2121 01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:47,510 types it's be you alone or you know 2122 01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:49,610 whatever and then everybody eventually 2123 01:28:54,790 --> 01:28:52,010 finished the puzzle and move on to the 2124 01:28:56,380 --> 01:28:54,800 next one yeah so I'm sitting there 2125 01:28:59,260 --> 01:28:56,390 putting pieces of the puzzle together 2126 01:29:01,390 --> 01:28:59,270 and I have this like something hits me 2127 01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:01,400 in the forehead like I felt like I 2128 01:29:08,620 --> 01:29:04,610 physically got hit and the next thing I 2129 01:29:12,190 --> 01:29:08,630 know I'm out in the universe and I am 2130 01:29:15,310 --> 01:29:12,200 part of a giant cloud of consciousness 2131 01:29:18,370 --> 01:29:15,320 and I'm floating around in space and I'm 2132 01:29:20,350 --> 01:29:18,380 connecting telepathy had no body okay 2133 01:29:22,150 --> 01:29:20,360 I'm just a consciousness and I'm 2134 01:29:24,490 --> 01:29:22,160 consciously communicating with all the 2135 01:29:27,870 --> 01:29:24,500 other people in this like misty cloud 2136 01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:27,880 and we're all just the bodied 2137 01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:30,890 consciousness talking to each other and 2138 01:29:35,830 --> 01:29:33,890 it was really loving and peaceful and 2139 01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:35,840 we're all just like oh look at where we 2140 01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:37,730 gotta go we got to get there and it's 2141 01:29:46,510 --> 01:29:42,650 just so so different than having a body 2142 01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:46,520 that was like got from it like oh my god 2143 01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:48,170 you don't have to have a body to be 2144 01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:50,690 conscious when I came back I was like oh 2145 01:29:56,590 --> 01:29:53,930 my god this is so cool and I attribute 2146 01:29:58,360 --> 01:29:56,600 this happening because when I was 13 2147 01:30:01,150 --> 01:29:58,370 years old I asked for my birthday 2148 01:30:04,390 --> 01:30:01,160 present and I wanted the book be here 2149 01:30:07,930 --> 01:30:04,400 now by Baba Ram Dass Richard Alpert yeah 2150 01:30:10,420 --> 01:30:07,940 I I've been staring into those mandalas 2151 01:30:12,550 --> 01:30:10,430 like they were the other God's gift to 2152 01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:12,560 humanity for two years at that point 2153 01:30:17,590 --> 01:30:16,010 yeah the book and looking at all his 2154 01:30:20,020 --> 01:30:17,600 drawings and reading everything he had 2155 01:30:22,210 --> 01:30:20,030 to say and I thought oh my god you know 2156 01:30:27,220 --> 01:30:22,220 God gave me a Mundell experience you 2157 01:30:29,470 --> 01:30:27,230 know like the Tibetan monks yeah and I 2158 01:30:31,990 --> 01:30:29,480 and then I it from that point on like I 2159 01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:32,000 I'm 15 years old you guys and at that 2160 01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:34,610 point on in the rest of my life I know 2161 01:30:42,060 --> 01:30:39,770 what it's like to be in in it not in 2162 01:30:46,180 --> 01:30:42,070 body conscious 2163 01:30:48,370 --> 01:30:46,190 whatever and I just so cool that gift 2164 01:30:50,260 --> 01:30:48,380 that God gave me or somebody did but 2165 01:30:51,700 --> 01:30:50,270 they slapped me in the forehead next 2166 01:30:58,150 --> 01:30:51,710 thing I know I'm out of my body and I'm 2167 01:31:00,130 --> 01:30:58,160 out in space so awesome I know so it was 2168 01:31:02,260 --> 01:31:00,140 really kind of fun and there were no 2169 01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:02,270 aliens involved no spaceship I'm just 2170 01:31:09,850 --> 01:31:07,850 floating around in space yeah so I had a 2171 01:31:12,460 --> 01:31:09,860 lot of really say weird things happen 2172 01:31:16,450 --> 01:31:12,470 and they're not weird to me now because 2173 01:31:18,940 --> 01:31:16,460 now I understand I understand that I 2174 01:31:22,300 --> 01:31:18,950 went that if I told you guys about the 2175 01:31:24,550 --> 01:31:22,310 time the angel was by the bed yeah well 2176 01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:24,560 thanks don't know not as like as an 2177 01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:28,250 adult or a younger person or I was like 2178 01:31:35,020 --> 01:31:30,890 thirty thirty-one something about that 2179 01:31:36,430 --> 01:31:35,030 no yeah tell us about yeah and this will 2180 01:31:37,900 --> 01:31:36,440 kind of sum it up because I know we're 2181 01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:37,910 getting to the end of the show here in a 2182 01:31:44,740 --> 01:31:40,730 little bit but I am I'm falling asleep 2183 01:31:46,390 --> 01:31:44,750 I'm married at the time I'm about I'd 2184 01:31:49,210 --> 01:31:46,400 say thirty thirty-one cuz I got married 2185 01:31:50,500 --> 01:31:49,220 when I was 29 for the first time so it 2186 01:31:52,660 --> 01:31:50,510 must have been a year or two into the 2187 01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:52,670 relationship so I'm thirty thirty-one 2188 01:31:58,390 --> 01:31:55,970 laying in bed falling asleep and as I'm 2189 01:32:01,840 --> 01:31:58,400 starting to fall asleep I I just closed 2190 01:32:04,210 --> 01:32:01,850 my eyes and I felt something happened on 2191 01:32:06,340 --> 01:32:04,220 my left side I'm on the left side of the 2192 01:32:10,660 --> 01:32:06,350 bed and there's you know standing room 2193 01:32:12,610 --> 01:32:10,670 on the left side of me and I suddenly my 2194 01:32:15,820 --> 01:32:12,620 eyes are closed but the room is lit up 2195 01:32:17,710 --> 01:32:15,830 like lit up my eyes you know it's like 2196 01:32:20,410 --> 01:32:17,720 sunlight outside right through my 2197 01:32:23,170 --> 01:32:20,420 eyelids yeah and I'm going oh my god and 2198 01:32:25,570 --> 01:32:23,180 I'm just falling asleep so I'm realizing 2199 01:32:28,870 --> 01:32:25,580 that there's a burst of light in the 2200 01:32:31,690 --> 01:32:28,880 room and the next thing I know I feel 2201 01:32:34,170 --> 01:32:31,700 someone's finger running down the top of 2202 01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:34,180 my forehead to the bridge of my nose and 2203 01:32:41,650 --> 01:32:38,690 I am gone I am out of that room I am in 2204 01:32:44,230 --> 01:32:41,660 a place of love and light and there's 2205 01:32:47,020 --> 01:32:44,240 people there and there's God is there 2206 01:32:49,750 --> 01:32:47,030 and the aliens are there I mean angels 2207 01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:49,760 are there it was like I'm oh my god this 2208 01:32:58,710 --> 01:32:55,650 yeah see like dad that's all I can think 2209 01:33:00,960 --> 01:32:58,720 and I'm so happy and it's so beautiful 2210 01:33:03,930 --> 01:33:00,970 and they told me all kinds of things I 2211 01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:03,940 don't remember any of it now and I just 2212 01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:06,370 like oh this is so great I'm dead I'm so 2213 01:33:12,090 --> 01:33:08,890 happy you know and the next thing I know 2214 01:33:14,730 --> 01:33:12,100 as I hear these words in my head again 2215 01:33:17,190 --> 01:33:14,740 for like the 50th time in my life you've 2216 01:33:20,790 --> 01:33:17,200 got work to do and then I'm slammed back 2217 01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:20,800 into my body okay and I wake up and the 2218 01:33:25,020 --> 01:33:22,690 only thing I can equate that to is I 2219 01:33:26,550 --> 01:33:25,030 think there was an angel standing by the 2220 01:33:29,730 --> 01:33:26,560 side of the bed and when I say angel 2221 01:33:32,580 --> 01:33:29,740 folks I mean a ninth dimensional alien 2222 01:33:34,590 --> 01:33:32,590 you know because that's what angels are 2223 01:33:36,300 --> 01:33:34,600 people don't get that and I mean this is 2224 01:33:38,130 --> 01:33:36,310 my gonna be my first book finally 2225 01:33:41,270 --> 01:33:38,140 decided which book to write first 2226 01:33:46,230 --> 01:33:41,280 nice it's called anus or aliens - yeah 2227 01:33:47,850 --> 01:33:46,240 that's cool yes Calla be an angel is 2228 01:33:50,850 --> 01:33:47,860 just like you know it's a very high 2229 01:33:52,620 --> 01:33:50,860 dimensional vibrating alien you know and 2230 01:33:54,390 --> 01:33:52,630 you just don't see it like you see a 2231 01:33:57,030 --> 01:33:54,400 grey or a reptilian or what have you 2232 01:33:59,190 --> 01:33:57,040 it's just a giant ball of light then a 2233 01:34:01,410 --> 01:33:59,200 and sometimes they'll have arms and legs 2234 01:34:03,630 --> 01:34:01,420 you know kind of coming out of them but 2235 01:34:05,220 --> 01:34:03,640 anyhow and there's been a lot of people 2236 01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:05,230 that have seen them I mean Barbra lambs 2237 01:34:09,300 --> 01:34:06,850 got a great story about seeing them 2238 01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:09,310 dance in a circle in in Wiltshire 2239 01:34:16,890 --> 01:34:13,570 England oh yeah they came down on a beam 2240 01:34:18,900 --> 01:34:16,900 of light they came in they separated 2241 01:34:21,450 --> 01:34:18,910 into three balls of light then they got 2242 01:34:23,730 --> 01:34:21,460 forms of feet and arms kind of in a head 2243 01:34:26,010 --> 01:34:23,740 and they danced around in a circle 2244 01:34:29,420 --> 01:34:26,020 created a crop circle and then zoomed 2245 01:34:32,850 --> 01:34:29,430 off and left whoa cool that's green I 2246 01:34:34,260 --> 01:34:32,860 know I was like oh my god any hi and she 2247 01:34:35,910 --> 01:34:34,270 wasn't the only one that saw it there 2248 01:34:37,890 --> 01:34:35,920 were witnesses to that one so that one's 2249 01:34:45,230 --> 01:34:37,900 really an amazing story hey yeah 2250 01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:48,030 think I know I'm back in my body and I'm 2251 01:34:53,730 --> 01:34:50,530 in pain this is the first time I had 2252 01:34:54,180 --> 01:34:53,740 pain associated with getting back in my 2253 01:34:57,270 --> 01:34:54,190 body 2254 01:34:59,340 --> 01:34:57,280 no and I think you can't really died I 2255 01:35:02,550 --> 01:34:59,350 really do I think I'm able II died for 2256 01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:02,560 maybe 30 seconds or 10 seconds who knows 2257 01:35:09,090 --> 01:35:06,130 but getting back into my body this time 2258 01:35:11,129 --> 01:35:09,100 hurt it was like everything hurt for 2259 01:35:13,709 --> 01:35:11,139 about five minutes like it was like 2260 01:35:15,750 --> 01:35:13,719 every nerve was on fire I can't even 2261 01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:15,760 describe it to people I never felt 2262 01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:20,170 anything could get sense and I was 2263 01:35:25,950 --> 01:35:22,090 pretty upset that I was back in my body 2264 01:35:27,810 --> 01:35:25,960 and I was mad as hell and then after the 2265 01:35:31,290 --> 01:35:27,820 pain went away after about five ten 2266 01:35:34,140 --> 01:35:31,300 minutes I felt heavy so heavy that I 2267 01:35:35,610 --> 01:35:34,150 could barely lift my leg and I've had 2268 01:35:37,470 --> 01:35:35,620 other people tell me now they've 2269 01:35:38,850 --> 01:35:37,480 experienced that too and they've gotten 2270 01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:38,860 back into their body after an 2271 01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:40,810 out-of-body experience uh-huh where 2272 01:35:46,530 --> 01:35:43,810 feels so heavy because you've just now 2273 01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:46,540 been light as a feather so you know this 2274 01:35:52,649 --> 01:35:48,370 is like a whole your back into this 2275 01:35:54,510 --> 01:35:52,659 heavy thing you know time you know as 2276 01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:54,520 you guys know I'm a big girl now but at 2277 01:36:00,720 --> 01:35:56,170 the time I was a hundred and ten pound 2278 01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:00,730 professional dancer so the problem was 2279 01:36:06,510 --> 01:36:03,130 at 110 pounds I felt like I was 500 2280 01:36:09,660 --> 01:36:06,520 pounds Wow yeah yeah it took me about a 2281 01:36:11,939 --> 01:36:09,670 day to get to the point where I could 2282 01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:11,949 dance again because I felt so heavy but 2283 01:36:16,590 --> 01:36:13,690 while this is all happening here's the 2284 01:36:18,629 --> 01:36:16,600 interesting part my husband who never 2285 01:36:21,629 --> 01:36:18,639 comes home before 1 or 2 o'clock in the 2286 01:36:25,410 --> 01:36:21,639 morning ever because he works like 69 2287 01:36:27,510 --> 01:36:25,420 hours a week but it's in the morning and 2288 01:36:31,709 --> 01:36:27,520 come home at like 2:00 in the morning ok 2289 01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:31,719 or midnight usually and this is like 8 2290 01:36:35,490 --> 01:36:33,730 or 9 o'clock I went to bed early that 2291 01:36:37,890 --> 01:36:35,500 night I think I was in bed at 9:30 2292 01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:37,900 because I was really tired and I didn't 2293 01:36:42,030 --> 01:36:40,570 feel good and that I read do remember 2294 01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:42,040 because I thought you know it's weird 2295 01:36:45,540 --> 01:36:44,050 maybe I did die because maybe something 2296 01:36:47,189 --> 01:36:45,550 happened maybe had a stroke and we had a 2297 01:36:49,169 --> 01:36:47,199 heart attack I don't know yeah there's 2298 01:36:53,610 --> 01:36:49,179 something weird I mean I just don't know 2299 01:36:56,310 --> 01:36:53,620 it right yeah and so I went to bed early 2300 01:36:58,080 --> 01:36:56,320 and he said he had a weird thing 2301 01:37:01,979 --> 01:36:58,090 happened he was sitting at the bench he 2302 01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:01,989 was sadr Enoch a circuit board and he 2303 01:37:05,550 --> 01:37:03,730 heard a voice in his head said you've 2304 01:37:08,459 --> 01:37:05,560 got to go home now 2305 01:37:10,620 --> 01:37:08,469 Wow she was like I because I've never 2306 01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:10,630 heard anything like that before since 2307 01:37:16,729 --> 01:37:13,330 but now I find out much years later you 2308 01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:16,739 guys he was a major contact ee whoa 2309 01:37:22,980 --> 01:37:19,690 really yeah 2310 01:37:24,990 --> 01:37:22,990 long after sister and I kept being 2311 01:37:27,450 --> 01:37:25,000 friends and it's slowly over the years I 2312 01:37:29,130 --> 01:37:27,460 found out they had missing time as kids 2313 01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:29,140 together with their parents 2314 01:37:34,070 --> 01:37:31,570 he had a big she had a baby they got 2315 01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:34,080 missing went missing I mean yeah just 2316 01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:38,530 trust me this will fit but contact bees 2317 01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:41,170 right so he's getting this voice in his 2318 01:37:45,090 --> 01:37:43,330 head and he's in total denial about all 2319 01:37:47,190 --> 01:37:45,100 of it right but he gets this place in 2320 01:37:49,950 --> 01:37:47,200 his head and it says go home right now 2321 01:37:51,660 --> 01:37:49,960 go home right now so he does he's tells 2322 01:37:53,790 --> 01:37:51,670 his boss I I don't feel good I got to 2323 01:37:56,190 --> 01:37:53,800 get home in the bus okay fine he leaves 2324 01:37:59,490 --> 01:37:56,200 he comes home to find me sitting there 2325 01:38:03,900 --> 01:37:59,500 on the edge of the bed trying to down JB 2326 01:38:06,140 --> 01:38:03,910 I hate JB by the way yep what it is is 2327 01:38:09,450 --> 01:38:06,150 horrible stuff I'm trying to down out 2328 01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:09,460 sleeping pills with JB so I can die and 2329 01:38:15,510 --> 01:38:10,930 go back to that place I love him like 2330 01:38:17,370 --> 01:38:15,520 dude yes and this was the only time in 2331 01:38:19,620 --> 01:38:17,380 our whole marriage the guy ever came 2332 01:38:23,850 --> 01:38:19,630 home early is to find me sitting there 2333 01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:23,860 trying to kill myself no I'm just 2334 01:38:27,900 --> 01:38:25,690 coincidence I mean that's such a 2335 01:38:30,420 --> 01:38:27,910 profound experience like I I can 2336 01:38:34,140 --> 01:38:30,430 definitely sympathize like Wow if you go 2337 01:38:37,860 --> 01:38:34,150 from basically heaven to back to reality 2338 01:38:40,530 --> 01:38:37,870 it's guys I can't tell you you know I I 2339 01:38:42,540 --> 01:38:40,540 sit here to this day going that is the 2340 01:38:44,910 --> 01:38:42,550 only thing that has kept me going is 2341 01:38:48,090 --> 01:38:44,920 knowing that when I die I get to go 2342 01:38:50,940 --> 01:38:48,100 there I know that yeah I absolutely know 2343 01:38:53,940 --> 01:38:50,950 I've been there so and that probably is 2344 01:38:56,220 --> 01:38:53,950 the other reason I have no fear you know 2345 01:38:57,660 --> 01:38:56,230 I do have fear I got to say it I when I 2346 01:39:00,390 --> 01:38:57,670 say I have no fear I have no fear of 2347 01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:00,400 death you know and right and one of the 2348 01:39:04,460 --> 01:39:02,650 most amazing things that's ever happened 2349 01:39:07,250 --> 01:39:04,470 to me how much time do we have left 2350 01:39:09,570 --> 01:39:07,260 however what you won you just keep going 2351 01:39:11,190 --> 01:39:09,580 the most amazing things that ever 2352 01:39:13,290 --> 01:39:11,200 happened to me was after I did the 2353 01:39:16,530 --> 01:39:13,300 super-soldier mind control conferences 2354 01:39:18,390 --> 01:39:16,540 in 12 13 and 14 I was having a lot of 2355 01:39:21,660 --> 01:39:18,400 problems with people in the community 2356 01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:21,670 there were you got to remember people in 2357 01:39:26,340 --> 01:39:23,890 that part of the community aren't quite 2358 01:39:29,610 --> 01:39:26,350 that stable and I didn't realize it at 2359 01:39:32,370 --> 01:39:29,620 the time when I was what I was doing I 2360 01:39:33,270 --> 01:39:32,380 was bringing to the surface for people 2361 01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:33,280 to exam 2362 01:39:37,740 --> 01:39:35,530 is these people who think they have been 2363 01:39:41,070 --> 01:39:37,750 used in the secret space program as 2364 01:39:43,650 --> 01:39:41,080 super soldiers in other dimensions 2365 01:39:45,390 --> 01:39:43,660 you know if it I'm not tuning my horn 2366 01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:45,400 here folks I'm just telling you if I 2367 01:39:50,340 --> 01:39:47,530 hadn't put on all those conferences I 2368 01:39:52,140 --> 01:39:50,350 would never about any of these people 2369 01:39:54,420 --> 01:39:52,150 you know definian 2370 01:39:56,850 --> 01:39:54,430 was out on the scene and he was one of 2371 01:39:58,290 --> 01:39:56,860 the few and only out there talking about 2372 01:40:00,780 --> 01:39:58,300 this kind of stuff and there were a 2373 01:40:03,450 --> 01:40:00,790 couple others but they would never have 2374 01:40:06,210 --> 01:40:03,460 gotten the variety they did had I not 2375 01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:06,220 done all these conferences because the 2376 01:40:13,740 --> 01:40:08,770 cut what existed is they got people in 2377 01:40:15,930 --> 01:40:13,750 the media industry radio you interested 2378 01:40:17,670 --> 01:40:15,940 in the subject and I actually know there 2379 01:40:20,370 --> 01:40:17,680 were three or four people each 2380 01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:20,380 conference from television shows well 2381 01:40:28,380 --> 01:40:26,050 there ya know that it it spurred on this 2382 01:40:30,630 --> 01:40:28,390 type of awareness of that kind of stuff 2383 01:40:32,070 --> 01:40:30,640 now whether these people are crazy and 2384 01:40:34,350 --> 01:40:32,080 whether they're actually doing what they 2385 01:40:37,140 --> 01:40:34,360 say they're doing or whatever not my 2386 01:40:40,050 --> 01:40:37,150 issue my issue was and I know I knew it 2387 01:40:42,030 --> 01:40:40,060 at the time was to get out there and get 2388 01:40:45,930 --> 01:40:42,040 people to understand that this goes on 2389 01:40:48,090 --> 01:40:45,940 okay right well whether it's only for 2390 01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:48,100 them or it's it's only real and their 2391 01:40:52,110 --> 01:40:50,050 reality you know I don't know but I 2392 01:40:55,230 --> 01:40:52,120 think there's a lot more to it than we 2393 01:40:57,210 --> 01:40:55,240 know about right it's just my so that 2394 01:40:59,970 --> 01:40:57,220 this was the secret space program kind 2395 01:41:02,880 --> 01:40:59,980 of way before you know Corey Corey Goode 2396 01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:02,890 came out with that exactly yeah I was 2397 01:41:08,970 --> 01:41:05,650 doing I wanted people to know that there 2398 01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:08,980 were other dimensional lives that I 2399 01:41:16,620 --> 01:41:12,930 thought the aliens or the government or 2400 01:41:19,110 --> 01:41:16,630 whatever was propelling people into 2401 01:41:20,910 --> 01:41:19,120 without their knowledge now whether it's 2402 01:41:22,950 --> 01:41:20,920 Johnny and back you don't know whether 2403 01:41:25,500 --> 01:41:22,960 they're just using hypnotic drugs to 2404 01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:25,510 make them do things that they would not 2405 01:41:29,670 --> 01:41:27,250 normally do while they're serving in the 2406 01:41:31,530 --> 01:41:29,680 military I don't know you guys I don't 2407 01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:31,540 know because I have heard you won't 2408 01:41:35,670 --> 01:41:33,250 believe the things I have heard in my 2409 01:41:38,250 --> 01:41:35,680 enduring just those four or five years I 2410 01:41:41,100 --> 01:41:38,260 was involved in that heavy yeah and also 2411 01:41:44,220 --> 01:41:41,110 brought in targeted individuals because 2412 01:41:46,410 --> 01:41:44,230 at that time mind-control targeted 2413 01:41:46,980 --> 01:41:46,420 individuals and super soldiers were all 2414 01:41:54,780 --> 01:41:46,990 in 2415 01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:54,790 had just left the military and he had 2416 01:41:59,790 --> 01:41:56,890 six months of missing time I'm thinking 2417 01:42:01,080 --> 01:41:59,800 now wait why are they targeting this 2418 01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:01,090 poor guy well it's because they're 2419 01:42:04,590 --> 01:42:03,130 trying to shut him up from ever exposing 2420 01:42:06,210 --> 01:42:04,600 what they did to him in the military 2421 01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:06,220 that he doesn't even know about yeah 2422 01:42:10,740 --> 01:42:08,890 yeah yeah Melinda has like this huge 2423 01:42:13,170 --> 01:42:10,750 list of people that she thinks that 2424 01:42:14,970 --> 01:42:13,180 that's that's happened to and I was 2425 01:42:17,430 --> 01:42:14,980 looking through that list and it's 2426 01:42:19,710 --> 01:42:17,440 insane like one guy was gone for like 2427 01:42:25,050 --> 01:42:19,720 two years or he had like two years worth 2428 01:42:25,590 --> 01:42:25,060 of missing time there that's it that's 2429 01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:25,600 who it was 2430 01:42:31,650 --> 01:42:29,530 yeah and the guy I mean literally three 2431 01:42:33,570 --> 01:42:31,660 years he goes off and he signs this 2432 01:42:36,180 --> 01:42:33,580 document in the military for a special 2433 01:42:38,070 --> 01:42:36,190 program walks out the door that's the 2434 01:42:40,260 --> 01:42:38,080 last thing he remembers three years 2435 01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:40,270 later he wakes up washing dishes at his 2436 01:42:46,770 --> 01:42:44,410 parents house damn that's insane 2437 01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:46,780 how many there's people who have these 2438 01:42:51,420 --> 01:42:49,090 stories and there's there seems to be 2439 01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:51,430 quite a few of them you know at what 2440 01:42:56,970 --> 01:42:54,730 point do you say okay all of these 2441 01:43:01,710 --> 01:42:56,980 people are making it up you know that's 2442 01:43:03,300 --> 01:43:01,720 right that's why in 2010 I thought you 2443 01:43:05,070 --> 01:43:03,310 know what something's got to be done 2444 01:43:08,310 --> 01:43:05,080 about this cuz no one's really talking 2445 01:43:10,860 --> 01:43:08,320 about it and it took me until 2012 to 2446 01:43:13,290 --> 01:43:10,870 actually put on the first conference but 2447 01:43:17,220 --> 01:43:13,300 if this right after my experience in 2448 01:43:19,170 --> 01:43:17,230 2009 where I almost died and I and I 2449 01:43:20,910 --> 01:43:19,180 finally figured out it took me five to 2450 01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:20,920 six years to really come to grips with 2451 01:43:27,780 --> 01:43:24,250 it that I had been poisoned that I that 2452 01:43:31,610 --> 01:43:27,790 I was deliberately trying to be killed 2453 01:43:35,790 --> 01:43:31,620 whoa and that's part of it too because 2454 01:43:38,070 --> 01:43:35,800 they know and this is what my CIA but he 2455 01:43:40,350 --> 01:43:38,080 told me after many years of me didn't in 2456 01:43:42,900 --> 01:43:40,360 denial about what happened to me knowing 2457 01:43:46,470 --> 01:43:42,910 full-well deep down inside something was 2458 01:43:48,780 --> 01:43:46,480 very wrong about my illness yeah hey he 2459 01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:48,790 said to me on the phone after I had 2460 01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:51,130 talked about my illness every told you 2461 01:43:54,810 --> 01:43:53,290 guys what happened to me no you haven't 2462 01:43:56,430 --> 01:43:54,820 said it you haven't said anything I 2463 01:43:57,710 --> 01:43:56,440 think on the last podcast you were gonna 2464 01:44:00,150 --> 01:43:57,720 get into it 2465 01:44:00,900 --> 01:44:00,160 okay I should tell you guys about it 2466 01:44:03,390 --> 01:44:00,910 because it 2467 01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:03,400 it's not in it's not phenomenal it's 2468 01:44:08,430 --> 01:44:04,810 just important okay 2469 01:44:10,590 --> 01:44:08,440 yeah yours happens it's 2009 it's the 2470 01:44:13,050 --> 01:44:10,600 end of July the last couple days of July 2471 01:44:16,260 --> 01:44:13,060 we get a hot spell in Marin County and 2472 01:44:18,030 --> 01:44:16,270 I'm going into my bedroom to turn on the 2473 01:44:19,410 --> 01:44:18,040 air-conditioner in the bedroom and it's 2474 01:44:22,140 --> 01:44:19,420 the first time I've turned it on all 2475 01:44:24,270 --> 01:44:22,150 year and my first thought was as I 2476 01:44:25,890 --> 01:44:24,280 grabbed the remote was I shouldn't be in 2477 01:44:28,410 --> 01:44:25,900 here breathing this air because it's 2478 01:44:29,730 --> 01:44:28,420 going to be dusty okay I'm thinking that 2479 01:44:33,380 --> 01:44:29,740 I gotta get out of the room so I'm 2480 01:44:35,610 --> 01:44:33,390 thinking hold your breath and then 2481 01:44:37,470 --> 01:44:35,620 breath like an idiot 2482 01:44:42,930 --> 01:44:37,480 I turn it on and I take a deep breath 2483 01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:42,940 accident hits the back of my throat and 2484 01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:45,850 it feels like a bug is hit the back of 2485 01:44:49,440 --> 01:44:47,530 my throat that's all we can't describe 2486 01:44:51,090 --> 01:44:49,450 it and I can't happen to try to swallow 2487 01:44:54,770 --> 01:44:51,100 to swallow to get rid of it I kept it 2488 01:44:57,750 --> 01:44:54,780 going it's a bag and I'm running around 2489 01:45:00,840 --> 01:44:57,760 acting all weird and about five minutes 2490 01:45:04,770 --> 01:45:00,850 later the sensation is gone and I forget 2491 01:45:07,710 --> 01:45:04,780 about it okay within 48 hours I'm laying 2492 01:45:09,690 --> 01:45:07,720 in bed I wake up and I am sick as a dog 2493 01:45:11,190 --> 01:45:09,700 that's all I can think is oh my god I'm 2494 01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:11,200 sick as a dog you know this was a 2495 01:45:16,980 --> 01:45:13,930 Wednesday it's now Friday I've got a 2496 01:45:19,350 --> 01:45:16,990 fever I got chills I'm like oh my god I 2497 01:45:21,780 --> 01:45:19,360 don't feel good I thought well there's 2498 01:45:25,050 --> 01:45:21,790 the h1n1 going around though that was a 2499 01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:25,060 summer it was very bad and I thought I 2500 01:45:28,740 --> 01:45:27,130 better get to the hospital so I did I 2501 01:45:31,410 --> 01:45:28,750 went I shouldn't go to the hospital I 2502 01:45:33,690 --> 01:45:31,420 went to a clinic and the clinic said oh 2503 01:45:36,420 --> 01:45:33,700 you've got the flu but it doesn't look 2504 01:45:38,310 --> 01:45:36,430 like it's h1n1 if you had h1n1 you'd be 2505 01:45:39,750 --> 01:45:38,320 a lot sicker and this would be going on 2506 01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:39,760 and blah blah blah just go home and take 2507 01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:42,010 care of yourself you'll be fine so I go 2508 01:45:46,830 --> 01:45:44,770 home now Monday rolls around and I am 2509 01:45:50,190 --> 01:45:46,840 sicker than the dog and now my fevers up 2510 01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:50,200 to 103 and I'm starting to have weird 2511 01:45:56,820 --> 01:45:52,410 wheezing and I'm just not feeling good 2512 01:45:59,730 --> 01:45:56,830 so I go to the ER and the ER says oh 2513 01:46:03,090 --> 01:45:59,740 you're fine you don't have h1n1 blah 2514 01:46:06,480 --> 01:46:03,100 blah go home any words come back okay so 2515 01:46:09,270 --> 01:46:06,490 now it's Wednesday it's now the first 2516 01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:09,280 week of August it's Wednesday and I'm 2517 01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:11,530 not feeling good I wake up and I can 2518 01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:13,210 barely tell where I'm at anymore I've 2519 01:46:15,990 --> 01:46:14,170 got now 100 2520 01:46:18,660 --> 01:46:16,000 three and a half undred for temperature 2521 01:46:20,340 --> 01:46:18,670 going on all the time and now my lungs 2522 01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:20,350 are starting to hurt and I heard 2523 01:46:25,890 --> 01:46:22,210 everywhere in my body and I can barely 2524 01:46:28,590 --> 01:46:25,900 walk and my roommate now takes the ER 2525 01:46:30,450 --> 01:46:28,600 again they take an x-ray and they said 2526 01:46:32,700 --> 01:46:30,460 oh you've got the beginnings of very 2527 01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:32,710 slight beginnings of pneumonia you 2528 01:46:37,530 --> 01:46:35,410 probably have h1n1 but we can't be for 2529 01:46:40,650 --> 01:46:37,540 sure unless we take all kinds of samples 2530 01:46:41,790 --> 01:46:40,660 but we're not gonna it's probably nothin 2531 01:46:45,030 --> 01:46:41,800 you're probably just getting pneumonia 2532 01:46:48,150 --> 01:46:45,040 and here you go take these pills so I 2533 01:46:49,890 --> 01:46:48,160 take a bunch of antibiotics and they 2534 01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:49,900 give me one there I take another one 2535 01:46:54,419 --> 01:46:51,730 when I get home blah blah blah bite well 2536 01:46:57,180 --> 01:46:54,429 now it's Wednesday now it's Friday the 2537 01:47:00,990 --> 01:46:57,190 antibiotics have done nothing absolutely 2538 01:47:03,900 --> 01:47:01,000 nothing and I did this but I'm told that 2539 01:47:06,900 --> 01:47:03,910 my roommate finds me on the floor by my 2540 01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:06,910 bed and I'm telling him to get the geese 2541 01:47:13,740 --> 01:47:12,130 to stop flying out of my chest and yeah 2542 01:47:15,570 --> 01:47:13,750 I was hallucinating I was so loosen 2543 01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:15,580 ating geese flying out of my chest it 2544 01:47:23,970 --> 01:47:21,130 was really cool actually I got my belly 2545 01:47:26,070 --> 01:47:23,980 it was really neat yeah and then I kept 2546 01:47:27,959 --> 01:47:26,080 telling him tell the baby next door to 2547 01:47:29,820 --> 01:47:27,969 stop crying well I kept thinking there 2548 01:47:31,979 --> 01:47:29,830 is a baby next door and there's no baby 2549 01:47:34,380 --> 01:47:31,989 there's no house right that's like I'm 2550 01:47:36,959 --> 01:47:34,390 hearing a baby it turns out what I was 2551 01:47:40,770 --> 01:47:36,969 actually hearing was all the sounds in 2552 01:47:42,060 --> 01:47:40,780 my lungs oh my yeah because you can hear 2553 01:47:43,590 --> 01:47:42,070 you know they get really loud in your 2554 01:47:46,140 --> 01:47:43,600 head when it's your lungs are all 2555 01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:46,150 falling junk I didn't know that anyhow 2556 01:47:49,050 --> 01:47:47,530 so that's what I was hearing but 2557 01:47:52,380 --> 01:47:49,060 apparently I didn't know what I was so 2558 01:47:53,820 --> 01:47:52,390 stoned on you know having a very high 2559 01:47:56,580 --> 01:47:53,830 fever that I didn't realize what was 2560 01:47:59,370 --> 01:47:56,590 going on and so he gets in the car and 2561 01:48:01,439 --> 01:47:59,380 he says I pulled up to the ER and there 2562 01:48:03,750 --> 01:48:01,449 was a Bay where they could see out the 2563 01:48:05,970 --> 01:48:03,760 windows to the cars pulling up and he 2564 01:48:08,939 --> 01:48:05,980 said I saw the doctor that worked on you 2565 01:48:11,700 --> 01:48:08,949 Wednesday and he took one look at you in 2566 01:48:13,260 --> 01:48:11,710 the car and he he dropped what he was 2567 01:48:16,650 --> 01:48:13,270 doing with the patient almost 2568 01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:16,660 immediately and almost sprinted to the 2569 01:48:22,650 --> 01:48:19,810 the nurse grabbed a gurney and was out 2570 01:48:24,810 --> 01:48:22,660 and out by the car within a minute he 2571 01:48:27,740 --> 01:48:24,820 goes within a minute or less in 40 2572 01:48:30,530 --> 01:48:27,750 seconds that service he says he knew you 2573 01:48:32,420 --> 01:48:30,540 dying and he says I and he said that to 2574 01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:32,430 me because I think she's dying and he 2575 01:48:37,550 --> 01:48:34,770 said oh my roommate didn't know how bad 2576 01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:37,560 it was and so they got me on they 2577 01:48:40,970 --> 01:48:38,970 actually put me in a wheelchair because 2578 01:48:43,550 --> 01:48:40,980 I couldn't get up on the gurney and I'm 2579 01:48:46,100 --> 01:48:43,560 too big to be you know lifting up on it 2580 01:48:48,110 --> 01:48:46,110 so they put me in a wheelchair they got 2581 01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:48,120 me into the room then I kind of help 2582 01:48:52,480 --> 01:48:49,770 them get me up onto the bed I do 2583 01:48:58,460 --> 01:48:52,490 remember that and the next thing I know 2584 01:49:00,920 --> 01:48:58,470 he says do you remember he slams me down 2585 01:49:02,900 --> 01:49:00,930 on the bed he pushes on my chest and 2586 01:49:05,180 --> 01:49:02,910 just pushes me flat on the bed he says 2587 01:49:07,220 --> 01:49:05,190 turn your head to the left I do and he 2588 01:49:09,350 --> 01:49:07,230 goes this is gonna hurt and I'm like huh 2589 01:49:11,570 --> 01:49:09,360 before I could even realize what's going 2590 01:49:12,890 --> 01:49:11,580 on and this is kind of gross folks Oh 2591 01:49:16,550 --> 01:49:12,900 close your ears if you don't want to 2592 01:49:18,980 --> 01:49:16,560 hear it but they they take a scalpel and 2593 01:49:22,340 --> 01:49:18,990 they cut into my jugular vein and they 2594 01:49:28,310 --> 01:49:22,350 put like an 8-inch pipe down into my 2595 01:49:31,100 --> 01:49:28,320 heart and they have they stitched it in 2596 01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:31,110 they put what they call a port on it and 2597 01:49:38,660 --> 01:49:34,370 what it does is it you know ports out 2598 01:49:40,820 --> 01:49:38,670 three it had three nozzles out so and 2599 01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:40,830 then they hooked up three bags of three 2600 01:49:45,860 --> 01:49:43,290 different antibiotics and these three 2601 01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:45,870 nurses I swear to god are standing by 2602 01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:47,730 the bed holding these bags trying to 2603 01:49:50,480 --> 01:49:50,010 pump all this into me as fast as they 2604 01:49:53,450 --> 01:49:50,490 could 2605 01:49:55,070 --> 01:49:53,460 Wow the reason is because they don't 2606 01:49:57,140 --> 01:49:55,080 know which one's gonna work because 2607 01:50:01,400 --> 01:49:57,150 obviously the pills did not work at all 2608 01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:01,410 yeah so what to do now and my blood 2609 01:50:06,860 --> 01:50:04,290 oxygen was down to like two two or three 2610 01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:06,870 if you're dead at one yeah though I'm 2611 01:50:11,810 --> 01:50:09,330 like that's not good so yeah so they're 2612 01:50:14,150 --> 01:50:11,820 doing they can to get my heart to pump 2613 01:50:17,990 --> 01:50:14,160 these antibiotics in to kill whatever is 2614 01:50:21,260 --> 01:50:18,000 in me that's killing me so the next 2615 01:50:24,530 --> 01:50:21,270 remember is I'm in the elevator on a 2616 01:50:26,810 --> 01:50:24,540 gurney stretched out looking at the 2617 01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:26,820 doors that are opening to the ICU I 2618 01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:29,130 don't know it's the ICU at the time all 2619 01:50:33,470 --> 01:50:31,410 I know is there's nurses all around me 2620 01:50:36,140 --> 01:50:33,480 and they're pushing this thing and I'm 2621 01:50:38,420 --> 01:50:36,150 in it so the doors open and it's like 2622 01:50:41,149 --> 01:50:38,430 you know I swear to God it was just like 2623 01:50:43,430 --> 01:50:41,159 a movie I saw the sky 2624 01:50:48,100 --> 01:50:43,440 standing at the door and it was Jerry 2625 01:50:51,979 --> 01:50:48,110 Garcia and I'm like oh my god I see nice 2626 01:50:58,040 --> 01:50:51,989 URI am i dead and he goes well not quite 2627 01:51:01,399 --> 01:50:58,050 yet I said oh I'm in hell then yes I go 2628 01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:01,409 play guitar he goes no not purgatory and 2629 01:51:08,149 --> 01:51:05,850 the nurses are all laughing you know 2630 01:51:13,370 --> 01:51:08,159 he's in a nurse's outfit right but it's 2631 01:51:15,860 --> 01:51:13,380 Jerry Garcia I swear to god he rolls it 2632 01:51:17,510 --> 01:51:15,870 out and the nurse just go back down the 2633 01:51:19,490 --> 01:51:17,520 elevator and there I am with Jerry 2634 01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:19,500 Garcia rolling me through the halls in 2635 01:51:28,100 --> 01:51:25,650 the ICU what's it like I go this isn't 2636 01:51:30,140 --> 01:51:28,110 where I was before and he's like 2637 01:51:34,330 --> 01:51:30,150 laughing I'm like why are you laughing 2638 01:51:42,310 --> 01:51:34,340 he goes because I'm not Jerry Garcia 2639 01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:46,660 swear to god this guy looks just like 2640 01:51:53,209 --> 01:51:50,010 art time job as a Jerry Garcia 2641 01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:53,219 impersonator and he is a full-time ICU 2642 01:52:02,120 --> 01:51:56,130 nurse he say we're living already 2643 01:52:04,910 --> 01:52:02,130 vitamin C and cocaine let's go in the 2644 01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:04,920 county hospital and Jerry Garcia is 2645 01:52:10,459 --> 01:52:06,810 there it all made sense to me 2646 01:52:13,970 --> 01:52:10,469 oh my god I gotta say if I'm ever dying 2647 01:52:24,410 --> 01:52:13,980 I hope Jerry Garcia is they're willing 2648 01:52:26,810 --> 01:52:24,420 me around before I go I tell ya I was in 2649 01:52:28,850 --> 01:52:26,820 so much pain and I was so out of it and 2650 01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:28,860 I started laughing and I couldn't 2651 01:52:32,919 --> 01:52:30,570 believe I was actually dying and 2652 01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:32,929 laughing at the same time it was this 2653 01:52:39,919 --> 01:52:37,050 dilation I think I thought that to 2654 01:52:46,370 --> 01:52:39,929 myself later I thought I died there in 2655 01:52:48,260 --> 01:52:46,380 the ICU over Jerry easily and then he 2656 01:52:50,300 --> 01:52:48,270 says to me before he leaves the room he 2657 01:52:53,090 --> 01:52:50,310 goes do you want a priest or anybody to 2658 01:52:55,850 --> 01:52:53,100 come see you now now I'm scared yeah 2659 01:52:59,210 --> 01:52:55,860 like is he asking me if I need a priest 2660 01:53:00,860 --> 01:52:59,220 yeah that's not good his first words 2661 01:53:02,810 --> 01:53:00,870 were what faith are you and I said well 2662 01:53:05,300 --> 01:53:02,820 I used to be Catholic and he goes well 2663 01:53:12,020 --> 01:53:05,310 do you want a priest I said I don't know 2664 01:53:14,630 --> 01:53:12,030 do I need what that I found out much 2665 01:53:18,830 --> 01:53:14,640 later that they thought I was not gonna 2666 01:53:22,610 --> 01:53:18,840 make it through the night they did they 2667 01:53:24,470 --> 01:53:22,620 say the unitarian woman she was a person 2668 01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:24,480 at the hospital at that time and she 2669 01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:26,370 came in to see me and asked me how I was 2670 01:53:31,340 --> 01:53:29,250 doing and if I felt you know like if 2671 01:53:34,700 --> 01:53:31,350 something happened who would I contact 2672 01:53:36,710 --> 01:53:34,710 and if I needed anything and I just said 2673 01:53:38,690 --> 01:53:36,720 look I said I've been there before I 2674 01:53:40,490 --> 01:53:38,700 know where I'm going I'm gonna be happy 2675 01:53:42,350 --> 01:53:40,500 and she goes oh that's wonderful we have 2676 01:53:44,510 --> 01:53:42,360 a nice little chat for about 10 minutes 2677 01:53:46,550 --> 01:53:44,520 and then she laughed and I thought you 2678 01:53:48,590 --> 01:53:46,560 know well if I died I died if I don't I 2679 01:53:50,750 --> 01:53:48,600 don't so there you go and I just went to 2680 01:53:52,460 --> 01:53:50,760 sleep and then the next thing I knew 2681 01:53:53,420 --> 01:53:52,470 well here's this here's the part that 2682 01:53:55,910 --> 01:53:53,430 really scared me 2683 01:53:58,910 --> 01:53:55,920 is I woke up the next day and I'm still 2684 01:54:00,470 --> 01:53:58,920 sick but not as sick and all these 2685 01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:00,480 people that come in the room 2686 01:54:03,980 --> 01:54:02,250 they're staying six feet away from me 2687 01:54:06,610 --> 01:54:03,990 and they're all wearing a plastic shield 2688 01:54:11,660 --> 01:54:06,620 over themselves in white outfits damn 2689 01:54:14,750 --> 01:54:11,670 that's not good either and I found out 2690 01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:14,760 later again later much later that I had 2691 01:54:19,310 --> 01:54:16,770 triggered a CDC Alert because they 2692 01:54:23,210 --> 01:54:19,320 thought I had some kind of mutant h1n1 2693 01:54:25,460 --> 01:54:23,220 whoa dang No 2694 01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:25,470 so I'm stuck in this place for three 2695 01:54:28,940 --> 01:54:27,330 days they're trying to figure out what 2696 01:54:30,410 --> 01:54:28,950 I've got and they can't figure it out 2697 01:54:32,780 --> 01:54:30,420 and they kept coming in and trying to 2698 01:54:33,650 --> 01:54:32,790 get blood and spit you know I mean God 2699 01:54:35,900 --> 01:54:33,660 it was a nightmare 2700 01:54:38,390 --> 01:54:35,910 I finally by the third day I'm feeling 2701 01:54:40,700 --> 01:54:38,400 much better because the antibiotic one 2702 01:54:42,380 --> 01:54:40,710 of the antibiotics is working so and 2703 01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:42,390 they kind of narrowed it down through a 2704 01:54:46,970 --> 01:54:44,490 blood sample which one was working and 2705 01:54:49,340 --> 01:54:46,980 they kept me on it and then they put me 2706 01:54:52,490 --> 01:54:49,350 in a private room away from everybody 2707 01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:52,500 else for two more weeks so I was stuck 2708 01:54:57,970 --> 01:54:54,810 in that hospital for 17 days and I gotta 2709 01:55:00,830 --> 01:54:57,980 tell you it wasn't fun or pretty but I 2710 01:55:02,870 --> 01:55:00,840 didn't let anybody see me and they all 2711 01:55:05,230 --> 01:55:02,880 every time someone came in they were 10 2712 01:55:07,690 --> 01:55:05,240 feet away from me most of the time 2713 01:55:10,060 --> 01:55:07,700 by the third by the second week when I 2714 01:55:11,260 --> 01:55:10,070 was getting better the x-ray guy kept he 2715 01:55:13,150 --> 01:55:11,270 would come by the side of the bed and 2716 01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:13,160 take my x-rays and stuff he wasn't too 2717 01:55:20,950 --> 01:55:19,010 freaked out and he never really knew 2718 01:55:23,020 --> 01:55:20,960 what I had and this is I leave the 2719 01:55:25,030 --> 01:55:23,030 hospital going okay so they didn't know 2720 01:55:27,940 --> 01:55:25,040 what I had I probably had h1n1 but you 2721 01:55:31,270 --> 01:55:27,950 know what who cares right so a year now 2722 01:55:34,090 --> 01:55:31,280 year goes by and I'm getting sick again 2723 01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:34,100 and I thought the last thing they told 2724 01:55:39,130 --> 01:55:35,810 me when I left the hospital was if you 2725 01:55:41,620 --> 01:55:39,140 ever get a cold and whatever in the 2726 01:55:43,930 --> 01:55:41,630 future you might develop pneumonia right 2727 01:55:46,300 --> 01:55:43,940 away so get to the hospital if you feel 2728 01:55:49,210 --> 01:55:46,310 funny and I thought okay I'm feeling 2729 01:55:51,610 --> 01:55:49,220 kind of funny again a year later I 2730 01:55:55,060 --> 01:55:51,620 thought I'm certain to get what I think 2731 01:55:58,210 --> 01:55:55,070 was bronchitis at the time and I get to 2732 01:55:59,740 --> 01:55:58,220 the ER and you say oh just you know sit 2733 01:56:02,350 --> 01:55:59,750 here we'll get someone in see in a 2734 01:56:06,390 --> 01:56:02,360 minute and this this doctor comes in now 2735 01:56:09,370 --> 01:56:06,400 I've been a frequent flyer at this ER 2736 01:56:12,190 --> 01:56:09,380 you all know me you know whatever but 2737 01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:12,200 I'd never seen this doctor before and 2738 01:56:16,900 --> 01:56:15,050 she pops in and she goes hi I'm doctor 2739 01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:16,910 so-and-so said well I've never seen you 2740 01:56:21,490 --> 01:56:19,010 here before and she goes yeah she goes 2741 01:56:23,290 --> 01:56:21,500 I'm doing a rotation I'm a military I 2742 01:56:26,620 --> 01:56:23,300 just got out of the military I was 2743 01:56:30,070 --> 01:56:26,630 serving at Fort Detrick I was doing 2744 01:56:32,110 --> 01:56:30,080 infectious medicine and I'm traveling 2745 01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:32,120 the United States looking for the 2746 01:56:36,250 --> 01:56:34,610 hospital I want to become an ER doc in 2747 01:56:38,140 --> 01:56:36,260 there because I'll be here three months 2748 01:56:42,250 --> 01:56:38,150 and I said oh that's great I go well 2749 01:56:43,870 --> 01:56:42,260 hopefully I'll never see ya she goes let 2750 01:56:45,580 --> 01:56:43,880 me see what's going on with you she goes 2751 01:56:48,220 --> 01:56:45,590 oh I see you were in here last year for 2752 01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:48,230 quite some time and very sick she was 2753 01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:50,450 let me go get your x-rays and I said 2754 01:56:54,970 --> 01:56:52,970 okay fine now if you guys know this they 2755 01:56:57,190 --> 01:56:54,980 don't do x-rays on film anymore they 2756 01:57:00,040 --> 01:56:57,200 print it out right it goes in your file 2757 01:57:03,370 --> 01:57:00,050 okay so she brings his file in with a 2758 01:57:05,170 --> 01:57:03,380 printout of my x-rays and I'm looking at 2759 01:57:08,350 --> 01:57:05,180 it and she's looking at it and I went 2760 01:57:10,150 --> 01:57:08,360 that's weird cuz my sisters a doctor I 2761 01:57:13,450 --> 01:57:10,160 know what pneumonia looks like in your 2762 01:57:16,510 --> 01:57:13,460 lungs it's big black spots of water in 2763 01:57:18,550 --> 01:57:16,520 your lungs and sometimes little bits of 2764 01:57:21,130 --> 01:57:18,560 white where there's mucus and stuff 2765 01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:21,140 built into it with the water and that's 2766 01:57:26,590 --> 01:57:23,810 how you dot drown right you basically 2767 01:57:29,770 --> 01:57:26,600 drown I didn't have that you know what I 2768 01:57:32,620 --> 01:57:29,780 had this will blow your mind I had they 2769 01:57:34,780 --> 01:57:32,630 were solid white balls and they looked 2770 01:57:36,850 --> 01:57:34,790 like golf balls or cotton balls all 2771 01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:36,860 stuff on them of my lungs like 2772 01:57:42,070 --> 01:57:40,370 two-thirds of my lungs whoa she's 2773 01:57:44,260 --> 01:57:42,080 looking at it and I'm looking at it she 2774 01:57:46,150 --> 01:57:44,270 goes oh my god she goes I don't know 2775 01:57:47,710 --> 01:57:46,160 what this is and then she's looking and 2776 01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:47,720 she's kind of talking under her breath 2777 01:57:51,730 --> 01:57:50,210 right and then she looked at me and she 2778 01:57:53,260 --> 01:57:51,740 looked back now it the thing is she goes 2779 01:57:54,910 --> 01:57:53,270 god if I didn't know better I'd swear 2780 01:57:57,580 --> 01:57:54,920 this is man-made I don't know what this 2781 01:58:01,300 --> 01:57:57,590 is and she caught herself she said 2782 01:58:03,460 --> 01:58:01,310 man-made and I and I felt her kind of 2783 01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:03,470 you know kind of like ah you know like 2784 01:58:09,250 --> 01:58:07,850 why did I say that I've looked at her 2785 01:58:10,870 --> 01:58:09,260 and she looked at me and she kind of got 2786 01:58:12,610 --> 01:58:10,880 off the side of the bed and she said you 2787 01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:12,620 know what you're gonna be just fine I 2788 01:58:16,270 --> 01:58:14,690 don't see your x-ray oh they've taken an 2789 01:58:17,860 --> 01:58:16,280 x-ray she goes your x-rays are totally 2790 01:58:19,510 --> 01:58:17,870 clear you're totally fine she goes if 2791 01:58:21,340 --> 01:58:19,520 you get any sicker though you come back 2792 01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:21,350 and she goes I'm not even to give you 2793 01:58:25,090 --> 01:58:23,090 antibiotics I think you're gonna be fine 2794 01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:25,100 and she walks away and that's the last I 2795 01:58:30,130 --> 01:58:27,650 ever saw of that chick but that little 2796 01:58:32,500 --> 01:58:30,140 thing of like that looks man-made to me 2797 01:58:33,940 --> 01:58:32,510 kind of just it it just started to 2798 01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:33,950 enforce the fact that there was 2799 01:58:39,850 --> 01:58:35,810 something wrong with my illness okay 2800 01:58:42,580 --> 01:58:39,860 yeah so then it gets better it never 2801 01:58:44,860 --> 01:58:42,590 stops so you know it's still to year to 2802 01:58:49,330 --> 01:58:44,870 year and a half or three years later I'm 2803 01:58:50,830 --> 01:58:49,340 sitting at my desk my phone rings it's 2804 01:58:51,460 --> 01:58:50,840 one of my friends who used to be in the 2805 01:58:54,010 --> 01:58:51,470 military 2806 01:58:55,630 --> 01:58:54,020 and he's panting and I go what the hell 2807 01:59:08,860 --> 01:58:55,640 are you panting for and why you calling 2808 01:59:10,750 --> 01:59:08,870 me Canty the less my bedroom you know 2809 01:59:12,490 --> 01:59:10,760 we're laughing about that and because no 2810 01:59:14,080 --> 01:59:12,500 I just got back from my hairdressers 2811 01:59:16,420 --> 01:59:14,090 it's in New York 2812 01:59:19,930 --> 01:59:16,430 I said you're weird I said are you gay 2813 01:59:22,150 --> 01:59:19,940 you know I was that time and he goes no 2814 01:59:23,740 --> 01:59:22,160 no my hairdressers a woman I said okay 2815 01:59:25,540 --> 01:59:23,750 fine he goes I kind of tell you 2816 01:59:26,920 --> 01:59:25,550 something I go he goes stop joking 2817 01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:26,930 around I gotta tell you something and 2818 01:59:30,780 --> 01:59:29,330 this is a friend of mine that I was very 2819 01:59:33,810 --> 01:59:30,790 close to 2820 01:59:37,110 --> 01:59:33,820 he never believed my story about what 2821 01:59:39,780 --> 01:59:37,120 happened with the h1n1 thing and me 2822 01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:39,790 being something wrong with picture right 2823 01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:42,490 he never believed me and he goes you 2824 01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:43,930 know I'm starting to believe your story 2825 01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:45,970 about something happening to you and I 2826 01:59:50,910 --> 01:59:48,850 said why why suddenly you now believe 2827 01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:50,920 heals let me tell you it just happened 2828 01:59:54,780 --> 01:59:53,290 because I was at my hairdressers I'm 2829 01:59:57,390 --> 01:59:54,790 sitting in the chair and we're talking 2830 01:59:59,040 --> 01:59:57,400 about the military and she says oh she 2831 02:00:00,060 --> 01:59:59,050 goes oh yeah that's right you did serve 2832 02:00:01,740 --> 02:00:00,070 didn't you and you were over at the 2833 02:00:03,810 --> 02:00:01,750 Presidio weren't you he goes yeah yeah I 2834 02:00:05,940 --> 02:00:03,820 was at the Presidio in San Francisco and 2835 02:00:07,650 --> 02:00:05,950 she goes yeah I was I was living on the 2836 02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:07,660 base for a while he goes you were what 2837 02:00:12,090 --> 02:00:09,970 he goes civilians don't live there she 2838 02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:12,100 goes they do if your boyfriend's and 2839 02:00:16,170 --> 02:00:14,650 special ops and he goes what your 2840 02:00:19,110 --> 02:00:16,180 boyfriend was special ops goes yeah he 2841 02:00:22,680 --> 02:00:19,120 moved me into this off they had trailers 2842 02:00:25,170 --> 02:00:22,690 you know for traveling you know soldiers 2843 02:00:27,990 --> 02:00:25,180 that were doing different odd jobs yeah 2844 02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:28,000 for house for them he goes yeah they 2845 02:00:33,500 --> 02:00:30,010 moved me in and no one said a word and 2846 02:00:36,060 --> 02:00:33,510 then he goes because yeah he had a 2847 02:00:38,340 --> 02:00:36,070 friend that used to come by and they had 2848 02:00:40,530 --> 02:00:38,350 this odd job within the military she 2849 02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:40,540 goes I thought or they would go around 2850 02:00:46,740 --> 02:00:42,970 fixing air conditioners at the different 2851 02:00:48,960 --> 02:00:46,750 bases and she goes morning I'm laying in 2852 02:00:51,660 --> 02:00:48,970 bed and I don't know why she told him 2853 02:00:55,890 --> 02:00:51,670 this and thank God she did all I got a 2854 02:00:57,780 --> 02:00:55,900 this point because I'm late and the door 2855 02:01:00,270 --> 02:00:57,790 is open to the bedroom and I can hear 2856 02:01:02,280 --> 02:01:00,280 them talking in the kitchen she goes and 2857 02:01:05,580 --> 02:01:02,290 I was awake for some reason I had woken 2858 02:01:07,950 --> 02:01:05,590 up and they started talking about how 2859 02:01:10,290 --> 02:01:07,960 they're gonna get their target today and 2860 02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:10,300 how much in the canister they're gonna 2861 02:01:16,410 --> 02:01:13,690 need to take this guy out and she's like 2862 02:01:17,910 --> 02:01:16,420 oh I'm sure killing people they're doing 2863 02:01:19,500 --> 02:01:17,920 they're stewing their special-ops but 2864 02:01:23,070 --> 02:01:19,510 they're doing it in another whole way 2865 02:01:24,870 --> 02:01:23,080 she goes [\h__\h] I put two and two together 2866 02:01:26,820 --> 02:01:24,880 and what they were doing is they were 2867 02:01:30,090 --> 02:01:26,830 going around spraying stuff in people's 2868 02:01:32,790 --> 02:01:30,100 air conditioners and killing them with 2869 02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:32,800 type of Legionnaires disease type of 2870 02:01:38,970 --> 02:01:35,770 thing knows what she's him and it was 2871 02:01:41,820 --> 02:01:38,980 during the Legion air time so she's like 2872 02:01:43,470 --> 02:01:41,830 oh my god they're killing people and she 2873 02:01:45,060 --> 02:01:43,480 she left that guy she was out of there 2874 02:01:47,070 --> 02:01:45,070 she packed her bags was out of that 2875 02:01:53,040 --> 02:01:47,080 building before he got home homework 2876 02:01:55,950 --> 02:01:53,050 that day oh she told this to my friend 2877 02:01:57,330 --> 02:01:55,960 out of the blue and she says I don't 2878 02:01:59,070 --> 02:01:57,340 know why I'm telling you this but I 2879 02:02:00,600 --> 02:01:59,080 think it's important that somebody know 2880 02:02:02,520 --> 02:02:00,610 that there were guys out there in the 2881 02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:02,530 military killing people back in the you 2882 02:02:07,650 --> 02:02:04,930 know 70s or 80s or whatever it was and 2883 02:02:11,130 --> 02:02:07,660 he ran out he said I swear to god Lauren 2884 02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:11,140 I paid her and I she was down my hair I 2885 02:02:17,130 --> 02:02:13,570 paid her and I ran home to call you she 2886 02:02:19,500 --> 02:02:17,140 goes all believe you now she goes I mean 2887 02:02:22,530 --> 02:02:19,510 he goes I just can't believe that that 2888 02:02:24,390 --> 02:02:22,540 happened and I'm finally opening my eyes 2889 02:02:26,820 --> 02:02:24,400 to the fact that you could very well 2890 02:02:30,780 --> 02:02:26,830 have been a target and I going oh ok so 2891 02:02:32,700 --> 02:02:30,790 that now that's strike free right I'm 2892 02:02:34,290 --> 02:02:32,710 like okay and I know I'm kind of flipped 2893 02:02:36,120 --> 02:02:34,300 out because I'm thinking well why would 2894 02:02:38,820 --> 02:02:36,130 anybody want to hurt me or whatever and 2895 02:02:42,090 --> 02:02:38,830 then another year-and-a-half goes by and 2896 02:02:45,180 --> 02:02:42,100 I'm on my radio show over at I did a 2897 02:02:47,670 --> 02:02:45,190 conspiracy show about targeted 2898 02:02:50,970 --> 02:02:47,680 individual super soldiers mind control 2899 02:02:53,790 --> 02:02:50,980 all kinds of things over on the Pegasus 2900 02:02:56,550 --> 02:02:53,800 radio network and veterans truth network 2901 02:02:59,100 --> 02:02:56,560 it was simulcast on both of them and I 2902 02:03:02,550 --> 02:02:59,110 was the only person on the networks that 2903 02:03:06,360 --> 02:03:02,560 wasn't a veteran and chip Tatum he is an 2904 02:03:10,500 --> 02:03:06,370 ex-cia operative brought me into this to 2905 02:03:12,240 --> 02:03:10,510 the program and he was our producer and 2906 02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:12,250 he would you know listen to the show 2907 02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:14,410 while he was doing it whatever and I 2908 02:03:21,510 --> 02:03:17,530 told this story up to this point one 2909 02:03:23,340 --> 02:03:21,520 night on the show and he types into 2910 02:03:24,690 --> 02:03:23,350 Skype as you guys know there's a place 2911 02:03:27,810 --> 02:03:24,700 you can communicate with each other 2912 02:03:30,540 --> 02:03:27,820 typing and he's typed in there stay on 2913 02:03:32,430 --> 02:03:30,550 after in capital letters with a whole 2914 02:03:35,970 --> 02:03:32,440 bunch of exclamation points and I'm like 2915 02:03:38,220 --> 02:03:35,980 oh I typed back okay so the guest gets 2916 02:03:40,230 --> 02:03:38,230 off the air and then chip gets on and he 2917 02:03:43,440 --> 02:03:40,240 says to me and he gave me permission to 2918 02:03:46,680 --> 02:03:43,450 say this live on air whenever I want he 2919 02:03:50,400 --> 02:03:46,690 says to me Lorien they gave you the 2920 02:03:52,230 --> 02:03:50,410 fizzy's and I said why G and what are 2921 02:03:54,750 --> 02:03:52,240 you talking about he goes they gave you 2922 02:03:55,620 --> 02:03:54,760 the fizzy's the fizzy's were developed 2923 02:03:57,180 --> 02:03:55,630 in 1950 2924 02:03:59,040 --> 02:03:57,190 fifty two three or four and he goes I 2925 02:04:02,160 --> 02:03:59,050 honestly can't remember what year but I 2926 02:04:04,709 --> 02:04:02,170 know it was 1952 three or four and it's 2927 02:04:11,090 --> 02:04:04,719 developed by the CIA it's a combination 2928 02:04:15,870 --> 02:04:11,100 of fungus something that creates mucus 2929 02:04:17,910 --> 02:04:15,880 strep pneumonia mostly and a bunch of 2930 02:04:19,770 --> 02:04:17,920 other things right because it's all of 2931 02:04:22,950 --> 02:04:19,780 it it's all put together in one it was 2932 02:04:26,280 --> 02:04:22,960 developed by the CIA to kill presidents 2933 02:04:31,260 --> 02:04:26,290 and other people we don't like anyone my 2934 02:04:32,580 --> 02:04:31,270 god I said I like freaking out now and 2935 02:04:38,060 --> 02:04:32,590 because yeah it's absolutely true 2936 02:04:46,140 --> 02:04:43,410 72 hours of breathing it in and it's a 2937 02:04:48,209 --> 02:04:46,150 it's encapsulated bacteria that 2938 02:04:51,300 --> 02:04:48,219 dissolves in your throat or your mucous 2939 02:04:54,540 --> 02:04:51,310 membranes of your nose or your mouth and 2940 02:04:55,919 --> 02:04:54,550 I said oh my god I said Jesus are you 2941 02:04:57,810 --> 02:04:55,929 kidding me and he goes no and they 2942 02:04:59,490 --> 02:04:57,820 probably he goes the part about the air 2943 02:05:01,379 --> 02:04:59,500 conditioners classic that's how they 2944 02:05:03,209 --> 02:05:01,389 used to do it in the old days they don't 2945 02:05:05,790 --> 02:05:03,219 do it like that now but they did it in 2946 02:05:07,439 --> 02:05:05,800 the old days that way he goes and they 2947 02:05:10,939 --> 02:05:07,449 were experimenting with Legionnaires 2948 02:05:14,399 --> 02:05:10,949 disease early on in early 70s on how to 2949 02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:14,409 get it out there with an air Arsenal and 2950 02:05:19,830 --> 02:05:17,050 I'm like oh my god are you kidding me no 2951 02:05:23,370 --> 02:05:19,840 and then I got real quiet and I and I 2952 02:05:25,590 --> 02:05:23,380 thought to myself I said gene why would 2953 02:05:28,919 --> 02:05:25,600 they do that to me I hadn't even opened 2954 02:05:31,740 --> 02:05:28,929 my mouth nobody knew who I was in 2009 I 2955 02:05:34,229 --> 02:05:31,750 hadn't even done anything and I was 2956 02:05:37,070 --> 02:05:34,239 completely quiet no one I wasn't rocking 2957 02:05:40,169 --> 02:05:37,080 the boat I wasn't piss anybody I wasn't 2958 02:05:44,640 --> 02:05:40,179 yet and he laughed and he said you know 2959 02:05:47,610 --> 02:05:44,650 they know the future don't you what and 2960 02:05:50,760 --> 02:05:47,620 I was like he said remote viewing 2961 02:05:53,370 --> 02:05:50,770 program he goes absolutely he goes your 2962 02:05:57,479 --> 02:05:53,380 name pop starts popping up in their 2963 02:05:59,580 --> 02:05:57,489 minds and 19 you know 2010 and from that 2964 02:06:01,350 --> 02:05:59,590 point on they're like oh we got to get 2965 02:06:08,620 --> 02:06:01,360 rid of this chick before she even opens 2966 02:06:12,370 --> 02:06:11,320 this is now and the reason I'm telling 2967 02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:12,380 this to everybody 2968 02:06:17,680 --> 02:06:15,290 not that I care about me or I care about 2969 02:06:20,740 --> 02:06:17,690 the fact that they look into the future 2970 02:06:22,660 --> 02:06:20,750 to figure out who to get rid of so they 2971 02:06:28,120 --> 02:06:22,670 don't have any problems that's what 2972 02:06:30,700 --> 02:06:28,130 pissed dude that is that's pretty 2973 02:06:33,910 --> 02:06:30,710 mind-blowing I guess we should end the 2974 02:06:36,700 --> 02:06:33,920 show like this why me I'm speechless I 2975 02:06:38,680 --> 02:06:36,710 mean it does make sense I mean if you're 2976 02:06:40,240 --> 02:06:38,690 gonna kill somebody or assassinate 2977 02:06:42,040 --> 02:06:40,250 somebody you know that when it comes up 2978 02:06:43,330 --> 02:06:42,050 on the autopsy Bert report oh they died 2979 02:06:46,270 --> 02:06:43,340 of pneumonia no one's gonna ask 2980 02:06:47,890 --> 02:06:46,280 questions right that's exactly what chip 2981 02:06:49,750 --> 02:06:47,900 said he goes everybody thinks they died 2982 02:06:53,410 --> 02:06:49,760 of pneumonia do you remember all those 2983 02:06:55,960 --> 02:06:53,420 guys down in South America in the 70s 2984 02:06:58,210 --> 02:06:55,970 80s and 90s that they'd they were older 2985 02:07:00,220 --> 02:06:58,220 so then you know like 40s and 50s and 2986 02:07:05,910 --> 02:07:00,230 they suddenly get hot sick and they end 2987 02:07:14,530 --> 02:07:09,070 Wow so the government killed Bernie Mac 2988 02:07:15,130 --> 02:07:14,540 No do you know what I'm laughing but you 2989 02:07:20,260 --> 02:07:15,140 know what 2990 02:07:24,100 --> 02:07:20,270 they may have I mean the dude was 2991 02:07:26,020 --> 02:07:24,110 awesome yeah he may have been you know 2992 02:07:32,460 --> 02:07:26,030 we don't know what he may have done in 2993 02:07:34,840 --> 02:07:32,470 the future see that's the whole you know 2994 02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:34,850 and I'm not saying they killed John 2995 02:07:39,010 --> 02:07:36,410 Belushi and I'm not saying they killed 2996 02:07:42,130 --> 02:07:39,020 everybody but I'm just saying you never 2997 02:07:44,890 --> 02:07:42,140 know one of 20 people that has died kind 2998 02:07:47,200 --> 02:07:44,900 of like weirdly yeah I just asked self 2999 02:07:49,030 --> 02:07:47,210 maybe that person in the future might be 3000 02:07:51,040 --> 02:07:49,040 causing us some problems and you got to 3001 02:07:52,780 --> 02:07:51,050 remember this isn't the first time they 3002 02:07:56,590 --> 02:07:52,790 played this game this game has been 3003 02:07:59,110 --> 02:07:56,600 going on a long time starting in 1963 3004 02:08:00,850 --> 02:07:59,120 when Judith Barry Baker David Ferrie and 3005 02:08:02,890 --> 02:08:00,860 all those guys and the New Orleans were 3006 02:08:05,080 --> 02:08:02,900 making the fast-acting cancer that 3007 02:08:09,280 --> 02:08:05,090 killed Jack Ruby is a first guinea pig 3008 02:08:10,930 --> 02:08:09,290 right on Martha Mitchell was next I mean 3009 02:08:13,510 --> 02:08:10,940 I can go down the list of people I know 3010 02:08:15,960 --> 02:08:13,520 they gave fact that fast-acting cancer 3011 02:08:19,450 --> 02:08:15,970 to in their 30s and 40s or early 50s 3012 02:08:21,730 --> 02:08:19,460 that had no sicknesses no illness were 3013 02:08:22,479 --> 02:08:21,740 nothing and those people are dead in six 3014 02:08:27,040 --> 02:08:22,489 to eight weeks 3015 02:08:29,709 --> 02:08:27,050 who's playing this game for a long time 3016 02:08:31,300 --> 02:08:29,719 back then they got rid of them when they 3017 02:08:32,830 --> 02:08:31,310 started opening their mouth then they 3018 02:08:34,959 --> 02:08:32,840 got smart with the remote viewing 3019 02:08:36,490 --> 02:08:34,969 program and said well why do we have to 3020 02:08:38,229 --> 02:08:36,500 do it after they've caused the damage 3021 02:08:41,950 --> 02:08:38,239 let's get rid of them before they caused 3022 02:08:44,200 --> 02:08:41,960 it yeah why I mean the the remote 3023 02:08:47,020 --> 02:08:44,210 viewing and stuff like that it has to be 3024 02:08:48,490 --> 02:08:47,030 pretty credible to be able to rely on it 3025 02:08:51,700 --> 02:08:48,500 I mean if they weren't positive yeah 3026 02:08:53,440 --> 02:08:51,710 sure I gotta say I'm not saying that's 3027 02:08:55,360 --> 02:08:53,450 my friends that were in the remote 3028 02:08:56,950 --> 02:08:55,370 viewing because I know a lot of people 3029 02:08:58,660 --> 02:08:56,960 that were involved in all the remote 3030 02:09:01,209 --> 02:08:58,670 viewing programs and these guys would 3031 02:09:03,370 --> 02:09:01,219 never do anything like that but I can 3032 02:09:07,120 --> 02:09:03,380 tell you doesn't mean they didn't have a 3033 02:09:09,640 --> 02:09:07,130 covert simultaneous operation going on 3034 02:09:10,360 --> 02:09:09,650 where people were doing that kind of 3035 02:09:14,470 --> 02:09:10,370 remote viewing 3036 02:09:19,120 --> 02:09:14,480 wow man well that so okay so this last 3037 02:09:23,290 --> 02:09:19,130 summer my AC went out and I was really 3038 02:09:26,440 --> 02:09:23,300 really upset and that I had the 3039 02:09:28,209 --> 02:09:26,450 shittiest AC guy I've ever had and I was 3040 02:09:30,340 --> 02:09:28,219 really upset about it but now after 3041 02:09:33,600 --> 02:09:30,350 hearing that story I'm really excited I 3042 02:09:36,520 --> 02:09:33,610 had the shittiest AC guy I've ever had 3043 02:09:39,100 --> 02:09:36,530 it wasn't some dudas you need to do 3044 02:09:47,950 --> 02:09:39,110 anything to my god you change your 3045 02:09:50,080 --> 02:09:47,960 filter oh my god I don't think they're 3046 02:09:52,920 --> 02:09:50,090 doing it like that anymore to be honest 3047 02:09:56,200 --> 02:09:52,930 with you I just got to throw that out 3048 02:09:58,840 --> 02:09:56,210 now is I think if they are still doing 3049 02:10:03,880 --> 02:09:58,850 this chart what I call the dark RV 3050 02:10:04,360 --> 02:10:03,890 program and they are oh oh oh I think we 3051 02:10:08,200 --> 02:10:04,370 lost her 3052 02:10:10,479 --> 02:10:08,210 oh oh oh no microphone device change to 3053 02:10:14,530 --> 02:10:10,489 bluetooth I hope not 3054 02:10:19,470 --> 02:10:14,540 did her their phone uh maybe maybe her 3055 02:10:22,420 --> 02:10:19,480 headset fell out or something maybe well 3056 02:10:25,180 --> 02:10:22,430 let's let's try and get her back really 3057 02:10:28,300 --> 02:10:25,190 quick so we can kind of wrap this up and 3058 02:10:30,280 --> 02:10:28,310 she can here we go they did that do you 3059 02:10:32,790 --> 02:10:30,290 remember the guy in Europe with his 3060 02:10:35,879 --> 02:10:32,800 daughter that got that plutonium or 3061 02:10:38,320 --> 02:10:35,889 uranium or some kind of horrible 3062 02:10:40,870 --> 02:10:38,330 that they did to him that was quite 3063 02:10:45,339 --> 02:10:40,880 public but man what a way to go I mean 3064 02:10:47,979 --> 02:10:45,349 it just it gets you fast whoa I wouldn't 3065 02:10:49,629 --> 02:10:47,989 yeah we we saw the thing changed on my 3066 02:10:51,129 --> 02:10:49,639 computer and we lost you for a second my 3067 02:10:54,160 --> 02:10:51,139 microphone for some reason it just 3068 02:10:55,510 --> 02:10:54,170 earned my speaker's canceled so we 3069 02:10:56,979 --> 02:10:55,520 didn't catch that last part 3070 02:11:10,149 --> 02:10:56,989 would you mind would you mind saying 3071 02:11:13,330 --> 02:11:10,159 that again oh my and it might be my 3072 02:11:15,189 --> 02:11:13,340 stuff going oh yeah it was it was 3073 02:11:16,959 --> 02:11:15,199 totally on my side for sure like the 3074 02:11:20,379 --> 02:11:16,969 audio settings for some reason changed 3075 02:11:24,010 --> 02:11:20,389 is the CIA I do [\h__\h] on this you're 3076 02:11:25,959 --> 02:11:24,020 getting too close I you guys it may be 3077 02:11:28,689 --> 02:11:25,969 because I'm telling you I don't talk 3078 02:11:30,399 --> 02:11:28,699 about this much and when I do things 3079 02:11:31,660 --> 02:11:30,409 start at me I forgot that's why I 3080 02:11:33,790 --> 02:11:31,670 haven't talked about it much that's 3081 02:11:37,089 --> 02:11:33,800 pretty creepy that is crazy 3082 02:11:38,950 --> 02:11:37,099 that isn't saying like oh my god like it 3083 02:11:40,419 --> 02:11:38,960 said it did switched like the microphone 3084 02:11:42,280 --> 02:11:40,429 and the speaker switched to bluetooth 3085 02:11:46,930 --> 02:11:42,290 for some reason I don't know what that 3086 02:11:49,540 --> 02:11:46,940 was about well just want to tell you 3087 02:11:51,370 --> 02:11:49,550 guys I I had an event where Terry 3088 02:11:53,979 --> 02:11:51,380 Lovelace was talking to us and 3089 02:11:56,260 --> 02:11:53,989 everything was fine and everything set 3090 02:11:57,700 --> 02:11:56,270 up just fine it's all perfect there's 3091 02:12:00,160 --> 02:11:57,710 not a problem we're going to it we're an 3092 02:12:02,830 --> 02:12:00,170 hour and a half into it and I bring up 3093 02:12:05,379 --> 02:12:02,840 the question of were there any do you 3094 02:12:08,200 --> 02:12:05,389 see any human beings on the ship wearing 3095 02:12:10,720 --> 02:12:08,210 military outfits and he answers the 3096 02:12:12,700 --> 02:12:10,730 question and within 5 seconds of him 3097 02:12:14,020 --> 02:12:12,710 answering yes to that question is 3098 02:12:16,839 --> 02:12:14,030 starting to tell us what they look like 3099 02:12:20,580 --> 02:12:16,849 when what they were wearing the computer 3100 02:12:25,060 --> 02:12:20,590 got a feedback loop sound that was so 3101 02:12:27,640 --> 02:12:25,070 painful to our ears and it brought out 3102 02:12:30,550 --> 02:12:27,650 the black screen of death to my computer 3103 02:12:32,709 --> 02:12:30,560 which never started up again and then I 3104 02:12:34,990 --> 02:12:32,719 didn't get repaired and here's what the 3105 02:12:38,140 --> 02:12:35,000 guy he kept looking at the motherboard 3106 02:12:39,820 --> 02:12:38,150 like like what the hell and he brought 3107 02:12:41,410 --> 02:12:39,830 me over and he said look at this and I 3108 02:12:43,030 --> 02:12:41,420 went what and he goes look down at these 3109 02:12:45,820 --> 02:12:43,040 little condensers here on this one 3110 02:12:48,939 --> 02:12:45,830 little chip I going yeah he goes they're 3111 02:12:49,660 --> 02:12:48,949 melted psycho well that's not a big deal 3112 02:12:51,340 --> 02:12:49,670 right 3113 02:12:54,189 --> 02:12:51,350 can get hot they could melt he goes no 3114 02:12:57,459 --> 02:12:54,199 they're the only ones melted and it's 3115 02:12:59,110 --> 02:12:57,469 only this solder that melted and he goes 3116 02:13:00,820 --> 02:12:59,120 cuz that's a different kind of solder 3117 02:13:01,810 --> 02:13:00,830 they use on just that one chip because 3118 02:13:04,930 --> 02:13:01,820 it's so tiny 3119 02:13:06,880 --> 02:13:04,940 it can't take the other kind I went one 3120 02:13:09,760 --> 02:13:06,890 the or I'm do I go you're right he goes 3121 02:13:13,959 --> 02:13:09,770 yeah he goes only that once melted what 3122 02:13:16,330 --> 02:13:13,969 I said look I'm sick they send a 3123 02:13:18,400 --> 02:13:16,340 frequency or an electrical pulse through 3124 02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:18,410 my computer at the right frequency to 3125 02:13:26,090 --> 02:13:20,810 melt that solder he goes well I've never 3126 02:13:26,100 --> 02:13:29,910 [Applause] 3127 02:13:35,350 --> 02:13:33,280 I'm just like okay maybe it happened 3128 02:13:38,080 --> 02:13:35,360 maybe it didn't maybe it just melted 3129 02:13:39,880 --> 02:13:38,090 there I don't know but you know it just 3130 02:13:41,979 --> 02:13:39,890 seemed weird to me that we're talking 3131 02:13:44,380 --> 02:13:41,989 about the military on the spacecraft 3132 02:13:46,900 --> 02:13:44,390 better human that are part of this 3133 02:13:49,150 --> 02:13:46,910 abduction scenario and then suddenly 3134 02:13:52,300 --> 02:13:49,160 everything goes fried right that is 3135 02:13:54,790 --> 02:13:52,310 crazy well I heard your I heard one of 3136 02:13:56,709 --> 02:13:54,800 your last rants where your computer got 3137 02:13:58,360 --> 02:13:56,719 messed up and and you took it to Geek 3138 02:13:59,680 --> 02:13:58,370 Squad and you had to have an appointment 3139 02:14:07,479 --> 02:13:59,690 so I hope you didn't take that computer 3140 02:14:09,340 --> 02:14:07,489 to Geek Squad but ya know if it hadn't 3141 02:14:11,470 --> 02:14:09,350 been seven or eight o'clock at night 3142 02:14:21,790 --> 02:14:11,480 when my computer croaked the last time I 3143 02:14:29,950 --> 02:14:21,800 went a Bennett damn quick geeks shout 3144 02:14:32,020 --> 02:14:29,960 out the staples staples tech dudes yeah 3145 02:14:33,669 --> 02:14:32,030 I don't know in the rant I'm like but 3146 02:14:36,070 --> 02:14:33,679 it's a power supply it takes three 3147 02:14:39,459 --> 02:14:36,080 minutes to swap out and the guys looking 3148 02:14:41,169 --> 02:14:39,469 at me and he goes well I'm sorry but if 3149 02:14:42,939 --> 02:14:41,179 you wait like you're never gonna get 3150 02:14:45,540 --> 02:14:42,949 served and I thought god what a horrible 3151 02:14:50,350 --> 02:14:45,550 place to work where you gotta tell them 3152 02:14:52,600 --> 02:14:50,360 yeah and then you walk out to call 3153 02:14:54,669 --> 02:14:52,610 staples on the phone and the guy goes oh 3154 02:14:57,130 --> 02:14:54,679 yeah we can swap and they'll take three 3155 02:14:59,169 --> 02:14:57,140 minutes I'm thinking okay I found 3156 02:15:09,919 --> 02:14:59,179 reality 3157 02:15:12,979 --> 02:15:09,929 seriously gotta have an appointment you 3158 02:15:20,380 --> 02:15:12,989 guys happy are we done shall we 3159 02:15:22,880 --> 02:15:20,390 that was great yeah in 30 days yeah yeah 3160 02:15:25,370 --> 02:15:22,890 my brains a little exploded right now 3161 02:15:29,479 --> 02:15:25,380 it's just that was that was a great 3162 02:15:32,270 --> 02:15:29,489 ending to them yeah I think my one of my 3163 02:15:33,709 --> 02:15:32,280 chips fried liked it and I hope it helps 3164 02:15:35,209 --> 02:15:33,719 your audience because that's really what 3165 02:15:37,520 --> 02:15:35,219 it's all about they need to be aware 3166 02:15:38,959 --> 02:15:37,530 that there is good there is evil and 3167 02:15:43,490 --> 02:15:38,969 they've just got to navigate it all 3168 02:15:46,220 --> 02:15:43,500 absolutely great listeners so I'm gonna 3169 02:15:47,320 --> 02:15:46,230 they're gonna love this for sure for 3170 02:15:50,300 --> 02:15:47,330 sure 3171 02:15:53,120 --> 02:15:50,310 okay dears we'll have a good one is now 3172 02:15:56,750 --> 02:15:53,130 she need before we check out here going 3173 02:16:00,890 --> 02:15:56,760 ahead and plug a UFO Conn okay I will 3174 02:16:03,860 --> 02:16:00,900 UFO con 2020 comm check that out and 3175 02:16:06,110 --> 02:16:03,870 there are some amazing speakers the UFO 3176 02:16:10,189 --> 02:16:06,120 garage guys will be in the atrium lobby 3177 02:16:11,689 --> 02:16:10,199 right outside of the the peninsula 3178 02:16:13,490 --> 02:16:11,699 ballroom where all the speakers are 3179 02:16:15,620 --> 02:16:13,500 going to be and you have to go right 3180 02:16:18,560 --> 02:16:15,630 past them every time you want to go then 3181 02:16:20,150 --> 02:16:18,570 to the vendor room or up to your room so 3182 02:16:21,560 --> 02:16:20,160 they're gonna see plenty of you you're 3183 02:16:23,209 --> 02:16:21,570 gonna see plenty of them and you guys 3184 02:16:25,550 --> 02:16:23,219 are having a good time so please be 3185 02:16:28,820 --> 02:16:25,560 there oh two quick things if you want to 3186 02:16:31,010 --> 02:16:28,830 discount to the conference I'm offering 3187 02:16:34,820 --> 02:16:31,020 discounts of $20 off of the regular 3188 02:16:37,250 --> 02:16:34,830 price until January 31st and in order to 3189 02:16:43,790 --> 02:16:37,260 get that discount it's a coupon code and 3190 02:16:46,700 --> 02:16:43,800 it is 20 that's 200 speaker spe a keer 3191 02:16:48,429 --> 02:16:46,710 in capital letters and all run together 3192 02:16:54,320 --> 02:16:48,439 so to zero 3193 02:16:56,419 --> 02:16:54,330 SPE a keer in caps and you will get $20 3194 02:16:58,940 --> 02:16:56,429 off of the regular price for the full 3195 02:17:02,179 --> 02:16:58,950 weekend I do hope to see you guys there 3196 02:17:04,910 --> 02:17:02,189 and the final note is the rooms at the 3197 02:17:06,169 --> 02:17:04,920 discounted price at the hotel go off 3198 02:17:09,379 --> 02:17:06,179 completely 3199 02:17:10,940 --> 02:17:09,389 on February 1st so by January 31st you 3200 02:17:12,470 --> 02:17:10,950 have to make your reservation at the 3201 02:17:15,890 --> 02:17:12,480 discounted price 3202 02:17:17,990 --> 02:17:15,900 so there you go perfect and I pretty 3203 02:17:19,310 --> 02:17:18,000 affordable and I hope you guys are there 3204 02:17:22,340 --> 02:17:19,320 because we're gonna have a blast 3205 02:17:25,580 --> 02:17:22,350 absolutely woo I'm stoked I'm so excited 3206 02:17:27,230 --> 02:17:25,590 only a month away yep yeah and don't 3207 02:17:28,730 --> 02:17:27,240 forget to don't forget to send us the 3208 02:17:30,440 --> 02:17:28,740 George Noory yeah yeah go ahead and 3209 02:17:31,870 --> 02:17:30,450 email us that instead of doing it 3210 02:17:34,790 --> 02:17:31,880 through Skype maybe that'll go through 3211 02:17:37,610 --> 02:17:34,800 I'll try to figure out now Dropbox it to 3212 02:17:39,560 --> 02:17:37,620 you it's perfect perfect yeah alright 3213 02:17:41,930 --> 02:17:39,570 awesome well so great to talk to you 3214 02:17:43,850 --> 02:17:41,940 Laurie and we'll see you soon we will 3215 02:17:45,530 --> 02:17:43,860 and I'll get you that ad and we're all 3216 02:17:46,730 --> 02:17:45,540 good and I'll see you guys there because 3217 02:17:49,630 --> 02:17:46,740 I may not have time to talk to you 3218 02:17:52,600 --> 02:17:49,640 before then okay perfect good all right 3219 02:17:57,020 --> 02:17:52,610 bye-bye 3220 02:17:59,240 --> 02:17:57,030 righto righto dude I mean holy crap I 3221 02:18:03,080 --> 02:17:59,250 mean it went in so many different so 3222 02:18:05,330 --> 02:18:03,090 many different directions I love I love 3223 02:18:06,770 --> 02:18:05,340 the own amantha those great yeah that 3224 02:18:08,870 --> 02:18:06,780 was that was pretty awesome 3225 02:18:09,950 --> 02:18:08,880 I was thinking huh I was thinking you 3226 02:18:12,200 --> 02:18:09,960 know how she was talking about the 3227 02:18:13,820 --> 02:18:12,210 eye-to-eye contact and how some people 3228 02:18:16,100 --> 02:18:13,830 like the gray will stare at you like 3229 02:18:18,440 --> 02:18:16,110 he'll be standing by by the bed the 3230 02:18:20,209 --> 02:18:18,450 bedside yeah and you look and then he 3231 02:18:23,030 --> 02:18:20,219 stares at you and gets closer to you 3232 02:18:26,900 --> 02:18:23,040 right well I was wondering what happens 3233 02:18:29,900 --> 02:18:26,910 if it startles you and like you burp in 3234 02:18:32,270 --> 02:18:29,910 his face on accident first like would it 3235 02:18:34,100 --> 02:18:32,280 like throw it off yeah you think or you 3236 02:18:37,100 --> 02:18:34,110 think he would stare harder you think 3237 02:18:40,520 --> 02:18:37,110 you'd be like oh god that space slap 3238 02:18:43,760 --> 02:18:40,530 your face you'd be like with all three 3239 02:18:45,800 --> 02:18:43,770 of his big ass fingers I'm thinking like 3240 02:18:47,209 --> 02:18:45,810 if if you're if you see an alien would 3241 02:18:48,310 --> 02:18:47,219 just close your eyes and they can't I 3242 02:18:50,780 --> 02:18:48,320 can't take you 3243 02:18:52,610 --> 02:18:50,790 yeah or maybe that's why instinctually 3244 02:18:54,950 --> 02:18:52,620 when you're a kid you're afraid you get 3245 02:18:56,750 --> 02:18:54,960 under the covers like like that's like 3246 02:18:58,250 --> 02:18:56,760 instinctually that's what you do because 3247 02:18:59,720 --> 02:18:58,260 if you close your eyes and you can't see 3248 02:19:01,459 --> 02:18:59,730 anything it can't hurt you 3249 02:19:03,320 --> 02:19:01,469 yeah dude dude there's got to be 3250 02:19:05,090 --> 02:19:03,330 something to that man yeah that was the 3251 02:19:07,610 --> 02:19:05,100 first time so first time I've heard of 3252 02:19:10,640 --> 02:19:07,620 that method like the right but eye 3253 02:19:14,240 --> 02:19:10,650 contact whoo that was nuts dude that 3254 02:19:18,560 --> 02:19:14,250 that whole um killing you before you 3255 02:19:20,990 --> 02:19:18,570 even become a problem thing what's it's 3256 02:19:23,990 --> 02:19:21,000 like what I mean 3257 02:19:26,120 --> 02:19:24,000 man yeah I I can't understand that I 3258 02:19:27,859 --> 02:19:26,130 can't - yeah 3259 02:19:30,259 --> 02:19:27,869 I think like to regular people that 3260 02:19:34,429 --> 02:19:30,269 would be like doesn't make any [\h__\h] 3261 02:19:36,830 --> 02:19:34,439 sense yeah right but dude I mean as much 3262 02:19:38,689 --> 02:19:36,840 of as we've looked into this like like 3263 02:19:40,160 --> 02:19:38,699 nothing pops nothing sounds crazy 3264 02:19:42,169 --> 02:19:40,170 anymore really do you know what I'm 3265 02:19:46,009 --> 02:19:42,179 saying like it all kind of makes sense 3266 02:19:49,820 --> 02:19:46,019 and yeah it is she's she's exactly right 3267 02:19:54,649 --> 02:19:49,830 it is all connected all of it dude yeah 3268 02:19:55,609 --> 02:19:54,659 it's it's all connected oh I love it 3269 02:19:56,960 --> 02:19:55,619 it's crazy 3270 02:19:58,849 --> 02:19:56,970 I like having around the show me two 3271 02:20:00,380 --> 02:19:58,859 times so I want to talk about JFK next 3272 02:20:01,639 --> 02:20:00,390 time I really want to know that we'll 3273 02:20:04,099 --> 02:20:01,649 get into that for sure 3274 02:20:08,660 --> 02:20:04,109 yeah dude she's she is she's one of my 3275 02:20:10,760 --> 02:20:08,670 favorites and do you ever like Hey she 3276 02:20:13,010 --> 02:20:10,770 finishes talking like I feel like I 3277 02:20:15,229 --> 02:20:13,020 almost like I ran a marathon like you're 3278 02:20:18,170 --> 02:20:15,239 just like what because you're like very 3279 02:20:21,050 --> 02:20:18,180 rarely do I focus on something like very 3280 02:20:22,670 --> 02:20:21,060 you know like yes very focused yeah but 3281 02:20:24,769 --> 02:20:22,680 when she speaks like I pay attention 3282 02:20:27,280 --> 02:20:24,779 dude yeah I mean when we watch this 3283 02:20:30,170 --> 02:20:27,290 video my face is gonna be like very 3284 02:20:32,599 --> 02:20:30,180 focus the whole time like I'm probably 3285 02:20:36,349 --> 02:20:32,609 not smiling at all yeah just so focused 3286 02:20:37,880 --> 02:20:36,359 on she stresses yep she's one of my 3287 02:20:40,820 --> 02:20:37,890 favorites I can't wait to see her at the 3288 02:20:42,170 --> 02:20:40,830 conference of guys if y'all get a chance 3289 02:20:45,050 --> 02:20:42,180 and you want to come out to California 3290 02:20:47,000 --> 02:20:45,060 or you're already from California you 3291 02:20:49,760 --> 02:20:47,010 better come out and see us man yeah 3292 02:20:51,800 --> 02:20:49,770 that'd be sick grab a beer we'll talk 3293 02:20:55,969 --> 02:20:51,810 about all kinds of stuff you know you 3294 02:20:58,820 --> 02:20:55,979 know UFOs aliens all things we heard 3295 02:21:01,219 --> 02:20:58,830 that's dude yeah man that was uh that 3296 02:21:03,309 --> 02:21:01,229 was that was a great episode I can't 3297 02:21:05,630 --> 02:21:03,319 believe it's only a month away me either 3298 02:21:07,450 --> 02:21:05,640 that's pretty insane this this like 3299 02:21:11,000 --> 02:21:07,460 these past few months have just flown by 3300 02:21:12,019 --> 02:21:11,010 it's been crazy yeah they really have I 3301 02:21:15,950 --> 02:21:12,029 really have 3302 02:21:17,899 --> 02:21:15,960 oh I'm expecting on on all you folks out 3303 02:21:20,269 --> 02:21:17,909 there to buy me a beer yeah 3304 02:21:24,530 --> 02:21:20,279 whenever I get there we require we 3305 02:21:25,269 --> 02:21:24,540 require free drinks please beers in hot 3306 02:21:29,450 --> 02:21:25,279 pockets 3307 02:21:32,179 --> 02:21:29,460 how was it I wasn't a music venue a 3308 02:21:34,460 --> 02:21:32,189 couple years ago and this this funk 3309 02:21:35,870 --> 02:21:34,470 slash blues band was playing and they 3310 02:21:37,639 --> 02:21:35,880 they played this song like halfway 3311 02:21:39,810 --> 02:21:37,649 through their set and it was like 3312 02:21:42,421 --> 02:21:39,820 whiskey far the bad 3313 02:21:45,091 --> 02:21:42,431 and and they played that until somebody 3314 02:21:50,570 --> 02:21:45,101 bottom whiskey like a shot each anyway 3315 02:21:57,450 --> 02:21:54,060 it's great dude yeah that's great yeah 3316 02:21:59,671 --> 02:21:57,460 that's great alright man well do 3317 02:22:04,650 --> 02:21:59,681 anything yeah I have nothing else to say 3318 02:22:07,950 --> 02:22:04,660 yeah my like you my mind is yeah explode 3319 02:22:10,680 --> 02:22:07,960 it's exploded exploded you guys check 3320 02:22:11,910 --> 02:22:10,690 out UFO garage PC comm for our our merch 3321 02:22:15,660 --> 02:22:11,920 if you guys want a shirt we got a new 3322 02:22:17,400 --> 02:22:15,670 one a new shirt oh I forgot I forget the 3323 02:22:19,410 --> 02:22:17,410 gentleman's name that reached out let me 3324 02:22:27,841 --> 02:22:19,420 let me let oh it was uh I think it was 3325 02:22:29,820 --> 02:22:27,851 Luke or his name was Luke oh yeah yeah 3326 02:22:32,100 --> 02:22:29,830 yeah Luke hit me up about in a t-shirt 3327 02:22:33,541 --> 02:22:32,110 idea and he was like dude I don't have 3328 02:22:35,070 --> 02:22:33,551 the means to do this but it'd be cool if 3329 02:22:37,650 --> 02:22:35,080 you put together to share this is or 3330 02:22:39,751 --> 02:22:37,660 that looks like an alien is or an alien 3331 02:22:42,660 --> 02:22:39,761 is being abducted by a human so we put 3332 02:22:44,341 --> 02:22:42,670 up with the the Impala on there in the 3333 02:22:44,640 --> 02:22:44,351 share abducting an alien looks pretty 3334 02:22:46,860 --> 02:22:44,650 cool 3335 02:22:48,421 --> 02:22:46,870 I wish there was a way we could put us 3336 02:22:51,480 --> 02:22:48,431 inside the Impala 3337 02:22:55,051 --> 02:22:51,490 you know like cool yeah I mean we 3338 02:22:56,700 --> 02:22:55,061 definitely I would like to do a like a 3339 02:22:59,100 --> 02:22:56,710 one-color version of us we're like oh 3340 02:23:00,780 --> 02:22:59,110 like just the front of the Impala and in 3341 02:23:02,610 --> 02:23:00,790 the windshield you see our head that's a 3342 02:23:07,711 --> 02:23:02,620 great idea right we could do that yeah 3343 02:23:09,690 --> 02:23:07,721 yeah it would be sick right man well 3344 02:23:12,150 --> 02:23:09,700 well that's it for me dude yeah dude 3345 02:23:14,280 --> 02:23:12,160 yeah alright great episode great episode 3346 02:23:15,600 --> 02:23:14,290 thank you Laurie and FinCEN thank you so 3347 02:23:18,120 --> 02:23:15,610 much and guys check out Laurie and 3348 02:23:20,490 --> 02:23:18,130 fintan on my case you're the fintan 3349 02:23:23,070 --> 02:23:20,500 files do it if you liked what she had to 3350 02:23:25,381 --> 02:23:23,080 say on our show just listen to what she 3351 02:23:28,470 --> 02:23:25,391 says on her own show yeah it's it's 3352 02:23:31,770 --> 02:23:28,480 insane I love that show yeah so go check 3353 02:23:37,540 --> 02:23:31,780 it out and also keep checking us out all